might as well just get rid of planes

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  • Callisto90
    75 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.
    Maybe it would be hard on console. But it's literally easier than tracking with an AA. Even easier if the plane is strafing right at you. They need to get incredibly close to be accurate with either the cannons or rockets.Cannons take too many bullets to kill infantry. So if they start shooting too far away the spread crosses out and needs to be adjusted with rudder.
     I fail to see how anyone misses both shots. It used to be maybe 5 planes in a match i'd FF down. Now it's almost every single one that passes low over me. Arras you can take them out from A and B near their spawn. This buff against air would have made a hell of a lot more sense if they didn't nerf the damage pacific fighters did.



  • xKusagamix
    1191 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    DingoKillr wrote: »
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.
    The FF is fine at the current state, the nitrous boost made it far from easy to reload and hit the second shot.
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    DingoKillr wrote: »
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.
    The FF is fine at the current state, the nitrous boost made it far from easy to reload and hit the second shot.

    Nitros bost ? Not all the planes have that so what can we do know if we are flaying a fighter without nitros bost ?
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    DingoKillr wrote: »
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.

    non sense again , the fliger guy can be anywhere in the map and can kill the plane with one shot from any angle from a long distance too and the pilot cant have even a clue that he is there.
  • xKusagamix
    1191 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    DingoKillr wrote: »
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.
    The FF is fine at the current state, the nitrous boost made it far from easy to reload and hit the second shot.

    Nitros bost ? Not all the planes have that so what can we do know if we are flaying a fighter without nitros bost ?
    Planes without the Nitrous boost are mostly used at dogfighting, they're not effecting ground warfare that much, so you should expect its to fly high, and Bombers/Attack planes can't get 1 shot kill by the FF.
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Planes without the Nitrous boost are mostly used at dogfighting, they're not effecting ground warfare that much, so you should expect its to fly high, and Bombers/Attack planes can't get 1 shot kill by the FF.

    You have no idea about the planes in bfv ? What you have said totaly show that, p51k have no nitros p51d can also be without supercharge , va cant have nitros ,G2 no nitros, zero A6M2 no nitros, corsair F4u1a no nitros, those are the fighters that can effect the ground and was widly used get ohk by fliger and got nurfed to the ground.
  • xKusagamix
    1191 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Planes without the Nitrous boost are mostly used at dogfighting, they're not effecting ground warfare that much, so you should expect its to fly high, and Bombers/Attack planes can't get 1 shot kill by the FF.

    You have no idea about the planes in bfv ? What you have said totaly show that, p51k have no nitros p51d can also be without supercharge , va cant have nitros ,G2 no nitros, zero A6M2 no nitros, corsair F4u1a no nitros, those are the fighters that can effect the ground and was widly used get ohk by fliger and got nurfed to the ground.
    VA does have nitrous, and what kind of "wildly used" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're talking about? P51K, G-2 are rarely used, both P51D and G-6 are far more better, that's the reason why they should be kill with 2 FF's volley, so do the F4U1A and the A6M2. A fighter plane job should be taking care of enemy Attack/Bomber planes to begin with instead of abusing rocket and bomb infantry/vehicle.

    That's the reason why BF1's plane balance is far more better than this utter garbage.

    I've play enough of this game to know what i'm talking about.

  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    VA does have nitrous, and what kind of "wildly used" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're talking about? P51K, G-2 are rarely used, both P51D and G-6 are far more better, that's the reason why they should be kill with 2 FF's volley, so do the F4U1A and the A6M2. A fighter plane job should be taking care of enemy Attack/Bomber planes to begin with instead of abusing rocket and bomb infantry/vehicle.

    That's the reason why BF1's plane balance is far more better than this utter garbage.

    I've play enough of this game to know what i'm talking about.
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    I dont see a ohk in bf1 from inf. To a plane so why it's ok now?
  • xKusagamix
    1191 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    edited August 9
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    VA does have nitrous, and what kind of "wildly used" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're talking about? P51K, G-2 are rarely used, both P51D and G-6 are far more better, that's the reason why they should be kill with 2 FF's volley, so do the F4U1A and the A6M2. A fighter plane job should be taking care of enemy Attack/Bomber planes to begin with instead of abusing rocket and bomb infantry/vehicle.

    That's the reason why BF1's plane balance is far more better than this utter garbage.

    I've play enough of this game to know what i'm talking about.
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    I dont see a ohk in bf1 from inf. To a plane so why it's ok now?
    Because can you name just one Fighter plane that can deal critical damage to Vehicle in BF1? And what kind of Attack plane that can destroy a Tank with just 1 bomb in BF1?
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Because can you name just one Fighter plane that can deal critical damage for Vehicle in BF1? And what kind of Attack plane that can destroy a Tank with just 1 bomb in BF1?

    Tank hunter can kill any tank with one dive, bomber killer fighter can deal 25 damage to a tank and reload in 13 sec. Bomber one hit kill a tank. No ohk inf. Tool to any of those planes. No aa that can reach all the map , unlimted ammo and you dont need to go all the way back to repair.
  • xKusagamix
    1191 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Because can you name just one Fighter plane that can deal critical damage for Vehicle in BF1? And what kind of Attack plane that can destroy a Tank with just 1 bomb in BF1?

    Tank hunter can kill any tank with one dive, bomber killer fighter can deal 25 damage to a tank and reload in 13 sec. Bomber one hit kill a tank. No ohk inf. Tool to any of those planes. No aa that can reach all the map , unlimted ammo and you dont need to go all the way back to repair.
    And yet you can't tell a Fighter plane that can deal critical damage to a tank or even an Attack plane that just could destroy a heavy tank with just 1 bomb in BF1.
  • Yurisputnik
    50 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Because can you name just one Fighter plane that can deal critical damage for Vehicle in BF1? And what kind of Attack plane that can destroy a Tank with just 1 bomb in BF1?

    Tank hunter can kill any tank with one dive, bomber killer fighter can deal 25 damage to a tank and reload in 13 sec. Bomber one hit kill a tank. No ohk inf. Tool to any of those planes. No aa that can reach all the map , unlimted ammo and you dont need to go all the way back to repair.

    Do you need a hug? :smiley:

  • Loqtrall
    12468 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    VA does have nitrous, and what kind of "wildly used" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're talking about? P51K, G-2 are rarely used, both P51D and G-6 are far more better, that's the reason why they should be kill with 2 FF's volley, so do the F4U1A and the A6M2. A fighter plane job should be taking care of enemy Attack/Bomber planes to begin with instead of abusing rocket and bomb infantry/vehicle.

    That's the reason why BF1's plane balance is far more better than this utter garbage.

    I've play enough of this game to know what i'm talking about.
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    I dont see a ohk in bf1 from inf. To a plane so why it's ok now?

    Lmao the AA rocket gun in BF1 2hk fighters and 3hk bombers, reloaded substantially faster than the FF, was more accurate than the FF, had extremely long range, and spawned with more shots than the FF.

    And the FF doesn't even OHK 100% of the time. Already in this thread we've had someone play ALL DAY solely using the FF to kill planes and still not even half his kills were 100hp OHKs.

    And that's aside the fact that planes were so slow in BF1 you could throw AT bundle grenades at passing bombers and OHK them - and don't act like pilots didn't complain about AA at that time either, there's a treasure trove of threads about it.
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    Because can you name just one Fighter plane that can deal critical damage for Vehicle in BF1? And what kind of Attack plane that can destroy a Tank with just 1 bomb in BF1?

    Tank hunter can kill any tank with one dive, bomber killer fighter can deal 25 damage to a tank and reload in 13 sec. Bomber one hit kill a tank. No ohk inf. Tool to any of those planes. No aa that can reach all the map , unlimted ammo and you dont need to go all the way back to repair.
    And yet you can't tell a Fighter plane that can deal critical damage to a tank or even an Attack plane that just could destroy a heavy tank with just 1 bomb in BF1.
    no no no you could not justify the OHK to planes in bfv, if the problem was planes doing damage to tanks that was solved and fighters dont kill tanks in one run, AA and MAA was buffed too so why give the inf. a tool that can do ohk a fighter this is what you need to answer, add to that the number of inf. that can carry that tool , the distance , the range , no counters and You cant even predict where is that player.
  • Frindly-Fire-4
    376 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Loqtrall said:
    xKusagamix wrote: »
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    VA does have nitrous, and what kind of "wildly used" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you're talking about? P51K, G-2 are rarely used, both P51D and G-6 are far more better, that's the reason why they should be kill with 2 FF's volley, so do the F4U1A and the A6M2. A fighter plane job should be taking care of enemy Attack/Bomber planes to begin with instead of abusing rocket and bomb infantry/vehicle.

    That's the reason why BF1's plane balance is far more better than this utter garbage.

    I've play enough of this game to know what i'm talking about.
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    I dont see a ohk in bf1 from inf. To a plane so why it's ok now?

    Lmao the AA rocket gun in BF1 2hk fighters and 3hk bombers, reloaded substantially faster than the FF, was more accurate than the FF, had extremely long range, and spawned with more shots than the FF.

    And the FF doesn't even OHK 100% of the time. Already in this thread we've had someone play ALL DAY solely using the FF to kill planes and still not even half his kills were 100hp OHKs.

    And that's aside the fact that planes were so slow in BF1 you could throw AT bundle grenades at passing bombers and OHK them - and don't act like pilots didn't complain about AA at that time either, there's a treasure trove of threads about it.
    in BF1  1st You need to lie down to use the tool and you can be spoted by the pilot and you cant even kill a fighter with two shots , on bfv you can hipfire the fliger from any position you cant be spoted by the pilot and you dont even need to aim the multi projectile dos not need to hit directly the plane it will explode in a radius  near the plane and ohk you.
  • A_al_K_pacino_A
    1107 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Every weapon in BF1 can really harm planes though. Compare the medic rifles in BF1 to the assault version in V.
  • ElliotLH
    9593 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Every weapon in BF1 can really harm planes though. Compare the medic rifles in BF1 to the assault version in V.

    It was a great feeling when you took down a plane with an SLR or BR.
  • DingoKillr
    4352 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    DingoKillr wrote: »
    Callisto90 wrote: »
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    Was 92 on fighters. 
    And yes it is easy you shoot at a plane strafing your flag, you reload turn around and shoot again, it's not like lobbing a tank shell or a panzerfaust.

    Over simplified. Many times shooting at at strafing plane you only get 1 shoot. Either you die to the plane or by attacking infantry.
    With current reload speed it far from that easy.

    DICE have the numbers and they decided that current of 1SK method is better then increasing reload and ammo.

    non sense again , the fliger guy can be anywhere in the map and can kill the plane with one shot from any angle from a long distance too and the pilot cant have even a clue that he is there.

    Grow up. He was saying it would be easy fire reload and fire again at a plane. It is not and never been easy to do that.

    So take your miss direction about the current FF and put it where the sun don't shine, right behind you on a shelf in your basement.
  • DerDoktorMabuse
    397 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Actually MAA got nerfed by introducing the light scout vehicles... light tanks where alread bad... but now there is a much faster much mobile platform out there deadly enough to take out every MAA without fear of destruction...
  • DerDoktorMabuse
    397 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    "if the problem was planes doing damage to tanks that was solved and fighters dont kill tanks in one run"
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    Thats right, now the rocket mustang and BF only does like 70% HP damage per run and will result in multi component failure...
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