ROF for WW1 weapons?

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heast1
142 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
how dice will cope slow rof of WW1 weapons with fast pace game?

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  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    What's a slow rof to you? There will be submachine guns, lmg's, hmg's, semi-auto's etc.
  • AceArchangel1
    37 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    > @Rev0verDrive said:
    > What's a slow rof to you? There will be submachine guns, lmg's, hmg's, semi-auto's etc.

    There are a grand total of maybe 3 total submachine guns, the LMG's and HMG's of the day were very slow firing and cumbersome. So yes heast1 has a point.
  • heast1
    142 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    wiki says lmgs are 400 to 600 rpm (so like the m60 at its best). 600 is slow. we are used to 600 to 1000 rpm in bf4
  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    Considering ttk and rof more than likely we'll have a slightly higher authentic damage model.

    Don't forget the weapons we'll see will be from the beginning of the war to the end and possibly authentic prototypes and under development weapons.

    For example the first ever bazooka was prototyped and tested on Nov. 6, 1918 ... 5 days prior to the war ending.

    Thompson Submachine Gun was designed in 1917 and prototyped in 1918. There are tons of examples like this.
  • Oroku_Miwa
    57 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    > @heast1 said:
    > how dice will cope slow rof of WW1 weapons with fast pace game?
    >

    Lower TTK and emphasis on melee finish offs?
  • AceArchangel1
    37 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    edited May 2016
    > @Rev0verDrive said:
    *snip*

    "first ever bazooka was prototyped and tested on Nov. 6, 1918" - Give me a credible/trustworthy source of information and then will will talk about that. (by the way it has nothing to do with ROF (Rate Of Fire).

    "Thompson Submachine Gun was designed in 1917 and prototyped in 1918" - Key word Prototyped... the 1918/19 model of Thompson was still a huge work in progress and was not close to any kind of fielding, until the initial production version of the 1921.

    "There are tons of examples like this" - If so why did you only provide one example? maybe because you couldn't find anything? You can say what you like but don't make bold statements without any support.
  • DarkFlame588
    290 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    I really hope the Thompson is in this game.
  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    There were two main experimental models of the Thompson. The Persuader was a belt-fed version developed in 1918, and the Annihilator was fed from a 20- or 30-round box magazine, which was an improved model developed in 1918 and 1919. Additionally, the 50- and 100-round drum magazines were developed.

    The first shipment of Persuaders arrived in New York to be shipped overseas on November 11, 1918, the day the Armistice went into effect.

    ----------- GOOGLE ------------

    Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), Charlton Automatic Rifle, Beretta M1918 (smg), Bergmann MP18 (smg), Fusil-Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG (lmg), OVP Modello 1918 (smg).........
  • AceArchangel1
    37 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    > @Rev0verDrive said:
    > Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR), Charlton Automatic Rifle, Beretta M1918 (smg), Bergmann MP18 (smg), Fusil-Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG (lmg), OVP Modello 1918 (smg).........

    The BAR, Beretta M1918, MP18, Fusil-Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG, OVP Modello 1918, Were used in WWI and if you count the SMG's you will find just as I commented above there were 3 submachine guns used in WWI, thank you for proving my point. As for the rest of the list there they were used in WWI and are not even an argument to my statement.

    Charlton Automatic Rifle (designed 1941 not WWI) How/Why did you put this here?
  • DarkFlame588
    290 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    Mmmm, yes, the BAR, forgot about the BAR.
  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    The "Charlton Automatic Rifle" was a doop copy and paste mistake.

    how about the Prototype 1919 Furrer submachine gun?

    A few other LMG's etc.
    Madsen M1902
    Lewis Machine Gun
    MG0815
  • AceArchangel1
    37 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    The fact of the matter is the fastest firing gun you have listed thus far is the BAR at somewhere between 500 to 650 RPM depending which really is very slow about the rate of the M240B in BF4 and the slowest being the Fusil-Mitrailleur Modele 1915 CSRG at about 240 RPM and there is no comparable in BF4.
  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    edited May 2016
    And your point being that this won't be BF4? It will be a slower paced game, but not by much. How fast does a dmr drop you in BF4? Do players running DMR's outgun LMG's, PDW's, AR's in BF4? yes, they do. Happens all the time. So what's the big issue? Do you need hrof spam cannons to compete?
  • AceArchangel1
    37 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    > @Rev0verDrive said:
    > And your point being that this won't be BF4? It will be a slower paced game, but not by much. How fast does a dmr drop you in BF4? Do players running DMR's outgun LMG's, PDW's, AR's in BF4? yes, they do. Happens all the time. So what's the big issue? Do you need hrof spam cannons to compete?

    I was refering to heast1's comment which was the point of us commenting in the first place. Yes it is slower paced and that was my point, and the article (hence ROF)
  • Rev0verDrive
    6760 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    it'll be "maybe" 1/8th slower if not the same as BF4.
  • S1ngular1ty
    801 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    Most soldiers carried single shot bolt action rifles in this time period. If everyone ends up with SMGs and LMGs it will be a joke.
  • NatsuTerran
    170 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    > @S1ngular1ty said:
    > Most soldiers carried single shot bolt action rifles in this time period. If everyone ends up with SMGs and LMGs it will be a joke.

    Yeah, that's how CoD WaW was. Almost everyone used the SMG's and LMG's, and sometimes the automatic STG44. Really hope the core gameplay features more rifles than anything else.
  • DingoKillr
    4012 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    > @heast1 said:
    > how dice will cope slow rof of WW1 weapons with fast pace game?
    >

    Why would anything be different? BF4 already has slow rate of fire weapons.
  • heast1
    142 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    > @S1ngular1ty said:
    > Most soldiers carried single shot bolt action rifles in this time period. If everyone ends up with SMGs and LMGs it will be a joke.

    true. but i guess it will be like in bc2-vietnam dlc , where you could find any type of weapon.
  • PvtJohnTowle
    1034 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    > @AceArchangel1 said:
    > > @Rev0verDrive said:
    > > What's a slow rof to you? There will be submachine guns, lmg's, hmg's, semi-auto's etc.
    >
    > There are a grand total of maybe 3 total submachine guns, the LMG's and HMG's of the day were very slow firing and cumbersome. So yes heast1 has a point.

    and prone to failure and locking up
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