I leave it to the media like Bloomberg, Forbes, CNBC and others to do the fact checking.
Again, I believe these facts to be true.
If you care to elaborate on what EA has lied about especially with Rental Server Program, I would be interested in hearing it.
One slight detail, which doesn't negate the main argument you make, is that in the phone interview, one of the guys stated, "More than 27 million fans have played our Battlefield games this fiscal year to date," and that was in the discussion of BFV. It is a bit misleading.
I leave it to the media like Bloomberg, Forbes, CNBC and others to do the fact checking.
Again, I believe these facts to be true.
If you care to elaborate on what EA has lied about especially with Rental Server Program, I would be interested in hearing it.
One slight detail, which doesn't negate the main argument you make, is that in the phone interview, one of the guys stated, "More than 27 million fans have played our Battlefield games this fiscal year to date," and that was in the discussion of BFV. It is a bit misleading.
Agreed on misleading.
EA will not lie but they will bend the truth to their advantage.
EA has already laid blame on BFV failure on everything but what it actually failed at. That is a complete game at launch, not the half game that was given. Skipping over and ignoring questions like "WILL THERE BE RSP" or answering it with "We cant discuss it at this time"
RSP is really just one of the many important reasons BFV has failed.
Get ready, once EA releases the second half of the game, they will call it "FREE DLC" and then see what happens.
Again, it is no longer fiscally viable for EA to pay someone to develop RSP tools. By the time it would get implemented, there won't be enough players left for EA to make money at it. Already BF4 , BF1 and BFV has similar concurring player counts.
Dice should leave EA asap and start being what they were b4
Yeah and Chevy should leave GM. That's on the same level as what you are saying. They are the same thing, DICE/EA are the same - they can't break up. EA can dissolve DICE, that's about it.
Actually that is incorrect. DICE was bought by EA and DICE could be sold off. Many companies have done that.
To bad DICE doesn't have the balls to stand up to EA and put out a game with features the community wants like 3rd party rental servers that can be admin controlled.
RESPAWN stood up to EA and put out APEX LEGENDS and look at how that game is doing. I don''t even like Battle Royale but they already have 25 million players and over 100,000 concurrent players all because RESPAWN put out a game the community wanted and did it for free. Loot crates sold separately.
EA needs to stick to just publishing and let developers do what the do, produce games.
R.I.P. RSP
Forums like these no longer matter. Truth is, the developers can't do whatever they want to make the game better. They can't respond to fans of a series in a way that would improve the product. Nope, they have to run everything past the guys at EA... the suits that only care what investors think. Being a customer isn't good enough. What is in your wallet is all that matters any more. On top of that, frankly, from what I've seen, too many SJW's have infiltrated DICE at this point and regardless of talent, they aren't going to give you what you want any way, even if they were independent of EA. No, it's over for Battlefield and anything else coming out of DICE studios.
Until people wake up and cause catastrophic failure of several games in a row, we aren't going to see any tangible changes.
@olT3lo I agree with you, Its sad but the Battlefield era as we have known it over the last 10 years + has come to an end,
it has now evolved into a quick match linear game inspired by the console generation.
New players coming into the game will not know what it was like before so will like it for what it is,
This is exactly the same as what Infinity Ward did to COD in the days when you could have 32 slot servers
I respect all the fans that have advocated for servers since before the release of BF1 (too many to list)
This thread has become obsolete!
@olT3lo I agree with you, Its sad but the Battlefield era as we have known it over the last 10 years + has come to an end,
it has now evolved into a quick match liner game inspired by the console generation.
New players coming into the game will not know what it was like before so will like it for what it is,
This is exactly the same as what Infinity Ward did to COD in the days when you could have 32 slot servers
I respect all the fans that have advocated for servers since before the release of BF1 (too many to list)
This thread has become obsolete!
I just hope this thread discourages as many players as possible from ever buying any EA product.
@olT3lo I agree with you, Its sad but the Battlefield era as we have known it over the last 10 years + has come to an end,
it has now evolved into a quick match liner game inspired by the console generation.
New players coming into the game will not know what it was like before so will like it for what it is,
This is exactly the same as what Infinity Ward did to COD in the days when you could have 32 slot servers
I respect all the fans that have advocated for servers since before the release of BF1 (too many to list)
This thread has become obsolete!
I just hope this thread discourages as many players as possible from ever buying any EA product.
True but it's due to the view of the developers & their sheer greed! When the FREE MARKET was in control of the servers at least one had a selection of servers which gave the different styles of gameplay & players their own choice but now that is gone! They think everyone plays the same & that's just NOT the case. Examples are knife or pistols only servers that were set up thru settings ect. ect.. Another example is like Operation Locker on a BF4 server one could work with all the kits & that's why they stayed populated for the most part & the ability to rank up a weapon much faster like LMG's for example. With no RSP & the lack of servers whom had active admins they now have it so YOU report players & that just takes from your gameplay time. Instead now your stuck watching cinematic spaws & trash like that instead of actual play time. It's sickening what they have done to the series in respect to some of the spawn in game related play not to mention the RSP. Players play in different styles & even that now has changed to where you'll see players camp to get the kills in BFV, not all but some. As for buying another EA game, I myself am going back to the old games as they at least offer something more than the BF1 or BFV! The graphics are nice but that's about it
All of you are right.
I would say this to everyone, do not buy the next Battlefield until the give specific details on rental servers, hosts, and admin controls.
Just don't buy it.
If ea doesn't want to give us what we want, then we as a community need to stop giving them what they want which is your money.
Still waiting for details on bfv rental servers
Still waiting on updates to bf1 rental servers.
All of you are right.
...
So waiting for details on bfv rental servers
i dont wait anymore. the game is dead for me and i wont invest any money into a server i cant really control anymore.
they had their chance and so be it. instead of buying any game of them i will for now on just put that money into my
own game-project until the day i can say "i dont need any battlefield game anymore".
enough is enough. they just lost another whole clan to support the franchise.
Well Ali "SOON!" Hassoon is talking again. Everything he said in BF1 and SWBF2 epically failled but here you go. Let the rumors begin. If it was coming from anyone else, I would say I believe but since it is coming from him I have to laugh. When was the last time he said the truth?
Well Ali "SOON!" Hassoon is talking again. Everything he said in BF1 and SWBF2 epically failled but here you go. Let the rumors begin. If it was coming from anyone else, I would say I believe but since it is coming from him I have to laugh. When was the last time he said the truth?
You're late to the party mate
Already aboned all hope again once I saw Ali "Soon" Hassoon being the one person who is in charge on this.
But the gamechangers aren't helping, the EA stock not crashing is not helping, the fact that Live Service is the mainstream business model is not helping and the sheer fact that EA compares literally all their titles to FIFA is not helping.
I am expecting the same right now as what has happened with Medal of Honor a franchise that in fact was quite healthy but not to the likings of EA.
If BF "6" does not meet the expectations then the franchise will be cancelled on order of EA. As simple as that, they will think (read assume) that people have lost interest despite that likely to be untrue.
There is also this simple issue that many companies now have that is as follows
Investmens = decreased profits for a while with high risk and unknown reward. Companies are no longer willing to take huge gambles. The Apex Legends article about the development proves that. EA did not want to invest into Apex as they simply did not see how that game would be a succes. Respawn Entertainment was certain of what they were doing and here we are, it worked. They pulled it off. How did EA respond? Within a week there was an EA backed tournament on Twitch. EA is now literally throwing money at it. Even Anthem is already being ignored by EA as it failed already.
BFV and Anthem, two major titles that need post-launch fixing to bring the game to the state it should have been at launch.
Apex, where EA was told to F off and just invest and let Respawn Entertainment do their thing: no post launch fixing needed, just some bug/issue/balancing fixing that can be deemed minor.
The difference? BFV and Anthem have EA pressure on release dates and fiscal years they have to launch in.
Apex had no pressure at all.
The result speaks for itself.
Then we have the fact how EA treats development studios. It starts with introducing more and more EA developers into the studios they own or bought. After a few years the core developers of those studios are no longer happy and leave, after that EA closes the studio and moves the developers who sticked and those who were introduced into the studio in question back into EA itself. Next step, repeat process.
Which brings me to the amount of DICE devs from the Stockholm office that are leaving. Here is something more simple going on. In Stockholm a lot of development studios have made their way. For a long time DICE was the only developer with potential and size. Now there is more choice, even Ubisoft has an office there now. Result? Devs from DICE leave to simply go a new way, have a new fresh experience. For some ofcourse, the whole EA strategy may be a thing but that won't be said out loudly of course.
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Again, I believe these facts to be true.
If you care to elaborate on what EA has lied about especially with Rental Server Program, I would be interested in hearing it.
One slight detail, which doesn't negate the main argument you make, is that in the phone interview, one of the guys stated, "More than 27 million fans have played our Battlefield games this fiscal year to date," and that was in the discussion of BFV. It is a bit misleading.
Misleading yes, but still factual.
EA will not lie but they will bend the truth to their advantage.
EA has already laid blame on BFV failure on everything but what it actually failed at. That is a complete game at launch, not the half game that was given. Skipping over and ignoring questions like "WILL THERE BE RSP" or answering it with "We cant discuss it at this time"
RSP is really just one of the many important reasons BFV has failed.
Get ready, once EA releases the second half of the game, they will call it "FREE DLC" and then see what happens.
Again, it is no longer fiscally viable for EA to pay someone to develop RSP tools. By the time it would get implemented, there won't be enough players left for EA to make money at it. Already BF4 , BF1 and BFV has similar concurring player counts.
Mmmm.. wouldn't it be nice!!
EA already grew their roots deep into dice.. I think its safe to assume DICE is made up of EA "favorites", I guess you could say..
Yeah and Chevy should leave GM. That's on the same level as what you are saying. They are the same thing, DICE/EA are the same - they can't break up. EA can dissolve DICE, that's about it.
To bad DICE doesn't have the balls to stand up to EA and put out a game with features the community wants like 3rd party rental servers that can be admin controlled.
RESPAWN stood up to EA and put out APEX LEGENDS and look at how that game is doing. I don''t even like Battle Royale but they already have 25 million players and over 100,000 concurrent players all because RESPAWN put out a game the community wanted and did it for free. Loot crates sold separately.
EA needs to stick to just publishing and let developers do what the do, produce games.
R.I.P. RSP
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-06/electronic-arts-sinks-as-pendulum-seen-swinging-the-wrong-way
Until people wake up and cause catastrophic failure of several games in a row, we aren't going to see any tangible changes.
it has now evolved into a quick match linear game inspired by the console generation.
New players coming into the game will not know what it was like before so will like it for what it is,
This is exactly the same as what Infinity Ward did to COD in the days when you could have 32 slot servers
I respect all the fans that have advocated for servers since before the release of BF1 (too many to list)
This thread has become obsolete!
I just hope this thread discourages as many players as possible from ever buying any EA product.
True but it's due to the view of the developers & their sheer greed! When the FREE MARKET was in control of the servers at least one had a selection of servers which gave the different styles of gameplay & players their own choice but now that is gone! They think everyone plays the same & that's just NOT the case. Examples are knife or pistols only servers that were set up thru settings ect. ect.. Another example is like Operation Locker on a BF4 server one could work with all the kits & that's why they stayed populated for the most part & the ability to rank up a weapon much faster like LMG's for example. With no RSP & the lack of servers whom had active admins they now have it so YOU report players & that just takes from your gameplay time. Instead now your stuck watching cinematic spaws & trash like that instead of actual play time. It's sickening what they have done to the series in respect to some of the spawn in game related play not to mention the RSP. Players play in different styles & even that now has changed to where you'll see players camp to get the kills in BFV, not all but some. As for buying another EA game, I myself am going back to the old games as they at least offer something more than the BF1 or BFV! The graphics are nice but that's about it
I would say this to everyone, do not buy the next Battlefield until the give specific details on rental servers, hosts, and admin controls.
Just don't buy it.
If ea doesn't want to give us what we want, then we as a community need to stop giving them what they want which is your money.
Still waiting for details on bfv rental servers
Still waiting on updates to bf1 rental servers.
i dont wait anymore. the game is dead for me and i wont invest any money into a server i cant really control anymore.
they had their chance and so be it. instead of buying any game of them i will for now on just put that money into my
own game-project until the day i can say "i dont need any battlefield game anymore".
enough is enough. they just lost another whole clan to support the franchise.
Well Ali "SOON!" Hassoon is talking again. Everything he said in BF1 and SWBF2 epically failled but here you go. Let the rumors begin. If it was coming from anyone else, I would say I believe but since it is coming from him I have to laugh. When was the last time he said the truth?
You're late to the party mate
Already aboned all hope again once I saw Ali "Soon" Hassoon being the one person who is in charge on this.
But the gamechangers aren't helping, the EA stock not crashing is not helping, the fact that Live Service is the mainstream business model is not helping and the sheer fact that EA compares literally all their titles to FIFA is not helping.
I am expecting the same right now as what has happened with Medal of Honor a franchise that in fact was quite healthy but not to the likings of EA.
If BF "6" does not meet the expectations then the franchise will be cancelled on order of EA. As simple as that, they will think (read assume) that people have lost interest despite that likely to be untrue.
There is also this simple issue that many companies now have that is as follows
Investmens = decreased profits for a while with high risk and unknown reward. Companies are no longer willing to take huge gambles. The Apex Legends article about the development proves that. EA did not want to invest into Apex as they simply did not see how that game would be a succes. Respawn Entertainment was certain of what they were doing and here we are, it worked. They pulled it off. How did EA respond? Within a week there was an EA backed tournament on Twitch. EA is now literally throwing money at it. Even Anthem is already being ignored by EA as it failed already.
BFV and Anthem, two major titles that need post-launch fixing to bring the game to the state it should have been at launch.
Apex, where EA was told to F off and just invest and let Respawn Entertainment do their thing: no post launch fixing needed, just some bug/issue/balancing fixing that can be deemed minor.
The difference? BFV and Anthem have EA pressure on release dates and fiscal years they have to launch in.
Apex had no pressure at all.
The result speaks for itself.
Then we have the fact how EA treats development studios. It starts with introducing more and more EA developers into the studios they own or bought. After a few years the core developers of those studios are no longer happy and leave, after that EA closes the studio and moves the developers who sticked and those who were introduced into the studio in question back into EA itself. Next step, repeat process.
Which brings me to the amount of DICE devs from the Stockholm office that are leaving. Here is something more simple going on. In Stockholm a lot of development studios have made their way. For a long time DICE was the only developer with potential and size. Now there is more choice, even Ubisoft has an office there now. Result? Devs from DICE leave to simply go a new way, have a new fresh experience. For some ofcourse, the whole EA strategy may be a thing but that won't be said out loudly of course.