Will there be more then 5 server regions?
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PS bravo, Doobie! Well said.
Currently I am working on Battlefail montage putting clips together of what kind of BS out of region players are causing.
You're the one that said the amount of high latencey players that are in region is small, I asked for your source yet you still haven't backed up your claim.
You keep on bringing statements from over a year ago...I'm wondering if you don't realize about the improvements that been made or you are just super ignorant.
I'm going to ping kick you
And I am still waiting for you to cite your source that local players are causing more havoc in the game then players that are continuously and constantly playing out-of-region. You don't feel that out of region players running with ridiculous high pings are any problems for console players so, please enlighten and educate us all.
1. I do not disagree with you that there can be local players with very bad connections.
2. It is my belief that the continuous out-of-region players with high ping caused mainly by playing thousands of miles away from the server are the bigger issue.
3. I have already stated more than once that I know improvements have been made and that I applaud them.
4. Show a little respect for the squeaky wheels that got them to concede to this issue in the first place back when. I'm in said list.
5. Whould I like to see a region locked? No. Would I like to see a ping limit? Yes.
Back to the Dark Zone lol (The Division)
Just pointing out your ping limit statement. There are ping limits in place. The problem is, they aren't set by DICE. They are set by MS/Sony.
Lol, don't take credit for getting Dice to fix it Al Gore. Just like this thread...you haven't brought any facts and evidence to the table...just whining and moaning. The people who made this game better are people like Battlenonsense who showed real data that the Devs could use and find the root cause....nice try.
Again way to dodge the challenge, you are the one that keeps posting high latency in region is a minority, don't try to turn it back on me....if you dont have the data don't be assuming that every guy that you die from is OOR....in fact the person that could be lagging and causing issues may be you....but I bet you will deny that with no relevant data to back it up.
3rd parties offer these on rented servers on PC.
Neither DICE or EA offer them on their servers.
So if they dont offer it on PC you can sure as hell bet they wont offer in console.
GL for 3rd parties getting approval from SONY/MS to get ping kicker on console on the servers they are going to rent.
Region lock would be the dumbest thing for a title like BF.
Servers in more regions is the only viable option but it cost money , so ask yourself if you are willing to pay more for that to happen even though there is nothing stopping anyone from playing OOR.....
But here is a bunch of knowledgeable community members explaining what seems to be lost on a few posters to this thread. These are just a few videos I quickly found. There are literally hundreds of videos on Youtube showing how and why high ping players cause server issues, ruining online gameplay. Some of these are older vids but the patches introduced from the CTE have not corrected the issue,..so I would say they are still relevant.
One thing that is not mentioned in the servers is that high latency players accelerate server degradation. In fact Battlenonsense did analyze the netgraph with low latency and high latencey players in a server and did not find any evidence that suggests this.
Lag will always be there and you will never eliminate it, you can just reduce the perceived "advantage". Chris does compare BF4 to other games and you can see in terms of performance it is better than BF3 and almost as good as CSGO. He also shows the lack of solid lag compensation in games like CoD and RB6.
Maybe trying to get dice to push the idea to the higher ups.
Like a poster previously said.
Have regional servers that are regional locked.
Have international servers that aren't locked
Allow private servers to ping kick
Seems fair enough for all
I completely understand this and what is being said. But look at it from MS/Sony POV. They don't distinguish between regional/international servers. They just say servers, meaning all servers being connected to by their respective console, can't be disconnected yada yada yada, depending on the TCR/TRC/Lot Check language for said game.
This is news to me. I don't mean that sarcastically. Where have you read that there is a ping limit in place on Console but it's set by Sony and what is the rate how does it work?
Why would DICE do something so dumb?
They gain nothing doing this.
More servers mean more cost which is not what EA is looking for.
Ping Kickers are offered by 3rd parties and have nothing to do with DICE or EA.
Not to mention anything regarding ping should be covered in the TCR/TRC and i dont think EA will be thrilled to argue with SONY/MS about this just for BF....
Also might be wrong but region lock usually is in the core coding of the game and not something set on the server side.
Not that it matters much as you can bypass them easily on console...
The problem has not and will not be fixed for any Dice/EA online FPS unless the aforementioned server changes are made.
And....these server changes won't be made (on console) until MS/Sony do their part in allowing these changes to be made.
Console is a different story.