Spotting enemies

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georgeanzelon
62 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
I like to think I am at least an average player skill wise in BF games. I love BF1 and seem to keep going back to it. I love what BF5 is, but the gameplay just makes me rage because most games I get killed by enemy players I cant even see. Yet it seems I have a neon jacket and a flashing beacon attached to me. What am I doing wrong. Even if I get the drop on an enemy they are able to spot and kill me most of the time before I can hit them multie times and finish them off. I hate feeling like a detriment to my team so I just give up after 1 or 2 matches. Don't get me wrong I have had some good matches but they are rare.

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  • CosmicStriker
    689 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    with all of the crys for more of a hardcore game, this is what has happened, no more 3d spotting, but we still get the big map, so now there is more camping, but so glad that scopes have the glint , but it's only if you even notice that.
  • HillbillyJohn
    470 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    This game reminds me of Bad Company 1 except I think BC1 was better.
  • XxmOss72xX
    168 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I like to think I am at least an average player skill wise in BF games. I love BF1 and seem to keep going back to it. I love what BF5 is, but the gameplay just makes me rage because most games I get killed by enemy players I cant even see. Yet it seems I have a neon jacket and a flashing beacon attached to me. What am I doing wrong. Even if I get the drop on an enemy they are able to spot and kill me most of the time before I can hit them multie times and finish them off. I hate feeling like a detriment to my team so I just give up after 1 or 2 matches. Don't get me wrong I have had some good matches but they are rare.

    If the enemy team has a recon with a spotting scope... you are in fact wearing a neon jacket with attached flashing beacon accessories... ooooorrrrr... all it may take is a couple of enemy squads on mics calling out positions... or both. I tend to get wrecked a lot more if I'm not playing with my buds as opposed to when I'm on mic with people who have my back... but then see also TTD issues (which are still the plague)
  • mgood1845
    93 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    OP, enemies are difficult to see, with uniforms like "lone wolf" which can be changed to mimic the map you are playing on, visual effects such as snow. I can understand your frustration.

    Some tips which i have found work for me.

    1.) Crouch, standing up allows you to be seen from almost anywhere if you are running. Crouch run everywhere.
    2.) When moving on the map, run short distances, and scan the area, this helps you see foes moving, improves your chances of surprising them
    3.) use your mini map and objective flag labels. If you see the enemy team is capping an objective quickly, you will know there are lots of people at that flag. Usually i will then go to my teams nearest flag and wait for them to be aggressive you will know which direction they are coming from.
    4.) I don't know which class you prefer to play as but be aware of the class limitations, you aren't going to be mapping a sniper at 150m with a medic's mp40. But you can hit that same sniper with a bi-pod LMG


    I still think that Dice should allow 3D spotting for my squad only.

    Key thing is when you are getting killed frequently you are being too aggressive, slow things down, hide and wait to see if you can start getting some kills.

    Have fun bud, and don't let it bring you down. It is much more fast paced and with the net code not up to where it was in BF1, you sometimes don't know you are taking damage until you fall deal to a random bullet from a pistol.


  • georgeanzelon
    62 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    OP, enemies are difficult to see, with uniforms like "lone wolf" which can be changed to mimic the map you are playing on, visual effects such as snow. I can understand your frustration.

    Some tips which i have found work for me.

    1.) Crouch, standing up allows you to be seen from almost anywhere if you are running. Crouch run everywhere.
    2.) When moving on the map, run short distances, and scan the area, this helps you see foes moving, improves your chances of surprising them
    3.) use your mini map and objective flag labels. If you see the enemy team is capping an objective quickly, you will know there are lots of people at that flag. Usually i will then go to my teams nearest flag and wait for them to be aggressive you will know which direction they are coming from.
    4.) I don't know which class you prefer to play as but be aware of the class limitations, you aren't going to be mapping a sniper at 150m with a medic's mp40. But you can hit that same sniper with a bi-pod LMG


    I still think that Dice should allow 3D spotting for my squad only.

    Key thing is when you are getting killed frequently you are being too aggressive, slow things down, hide and wait to see if you can start getting some kills.

    Have fun bud, and don't let it bring you down. It is much more fast paced and with the net code not up to where it was in BF1, you sometimes don't know you are taking damage until you fall deal to a random bullet from a pistol.


    Tank you for the tips and moral support. It is appreciated more than you know. Just got home from work and aged 2 matches. First was 21-14 , second was 2-13. I signed off for the night
  • Mishkin37
    678 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    OP, enemies are difficult to see, with uniforms like "lone wolf" which can be changed to mimic the map you are playing on, visual effects such as snow. I can understand your frustration.

    Some tips which i have found work for me.

    1.) Crouch, standing up allows you to be seen from almost anywhere if you are running. Crouch run everywhere.
    2.) When moving on the map, run short distances, and scan the area, this helps you see foes moving, improves your chances of surprising them
    3.) use your mini map and objective flag labels. If you see the enemy team is capping an objective quickly, you will know there are lots of people at that flag. Usually i will then go to my teams nearest flag and wait for them to be aggressive you will know which direction they are coming from.
    4.) I don't know which class you prefer to play as but be aware of the class limitations, you aren't going to be mapping a sniper at 150m with a medic's mp40. But you can hit that same sniper with a bi-pod LMG


    I still think that Dice should allow 3D spotting for my squad only.

    Key thing is when you are getting killed frequently you are being too aggressive, slow things down, hide and wait to see if you can start getting some kills.

    Have fun bud, and don't let it bring you down. It is much more fast paced and with the net code not up to where it was in BF1, you sometimes don't know you are taking damage until you fall deal to a random bullet from a pistol.


    Good tips. I crouch/go prone a lot when I’m scanning an objective for enemies and when I’m capturing objectives.

    Always find cover.

  • sbvaughn88
    162 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    OP, enemies are difficult to see, with uniforms like "lone wolf" which can be changed to mimic the map you are playing on, visual effects such as snow. I can understand your frustration.

    Some tips which i have found work for me.

    1.) Crouch, standing up allows you to be seen from almost anywhere if you are running. Crouch run everywhere.
    2.) When moving on the map, run short distances, and scan the area, this helps you see foes moving, improves your chances of surprising them
    3.) use your mini map and objective flag labels. If you see the enemy team is capping an objective quickly, you will know there are lots of people at that flag. Usually i will then go to my teams nearest flag and wait for them to be aggressive you will know which direction they are coming from.
    4.) I don't know which class you prefer to play as but be aware of the class limitations, you aren't going to be mapping a sniper at 150m with a medic's mp40. But you can hit that same sniper with a bi-pod LMG


    I still think that Dice should allow 3D spotting for my squad only.

    Key thing is when you are getting killed frequently you are being too aggressive, slow things down, hide and wait to see if you can start getting some kills.

    Have fun bud, and don't let it bring you down. It is much more fast paced and with the net code not up to where it was in BF1, you sometimes don't know you are taking damage until you fall deal to a random bullet from a pistol.


    Finally a supportive constructive comment on the forums instead of all the ignorant “git gud” comments. I agree completely. Great advice.

    And OP, I too had trouble making the adjustment from BF1 to BF5. Much different game. I had to slow things down and play much more defensively and think a lot more about positioning.

    As soon as I did this, learned the maps well, and finally found a few guns that work well for me....it became a lot more fun.

    Hang in there and try to play with a squad. If you ever want to play my gamer tag is EazyBreezyVeezy.
  • Skitelz7
    903 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    I like to think I am at least an average player skill wise in BF games. I love BF1 and seem to keep going back to it. I love what BF5 is, but the gameplay just makes me rage because most games I get killed by enemy players I cant even see. Yet it seems I have a neon jacket and a flashing beacon attached to me. What am I doing wrong. Even if I get the drop on an enemy they are able to spot and kill me most of the time before I can hit them multie times and finish them off. I hate feeling like a detriment to my team so I just give up after 1 or 2 matches. Don't get me wrong I have had some good matches but they are rare.

    Battlefield V is way tougher and more "hardcore" than Battlefield 1.
    Time to kill is shorter, there's no button for 3D spotting and the snap aim that BF1 has is gone (auto-rotation).
    It took me some time to get good at it even after playing a lot of BF1.
    The best tips I can give you is to stay close to your squad and only run when going from point A to point B or when trying to get to cover. When you're near an objective or in the middle of a firefight it is best to move at normal walking speed because that way you have more control of your character, your surroundings and you can aim down the sights faster.
  • Skitelz7
    903 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    sbvaughn88 wrote: »
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    OP, enemies are difficult to see, with uniforms like "lone wolf" which can be changed to mimic the map you are playing on, visual effects such as snow. I can understand your frustration.

    Some tips which i have found work for me.

    1.) Crouch, standing up allows you to be seen from almost anywhere if you are running. Crouch run everywhere.
    2.) When moving on the map, run short distances, and scan the area, this helps you see foes moving, improves your chances of surprising them
    3.) use your mini map and objective flag labels. If you see the enemy team is capping an objective quickly, you will know there are lots of people at that flag. Usually i will then go to my teams nearest flag and wait for them to be aggressive you will know which direction they are coming from.
    4.) I don't know which class you prefer to play as but be aware of the class limitations, you aren't going to be mapping a sniper at 150m with a medic's mp40. But you can hit that same sniper with a bi-pod LMG


    I still think that Dice should allow 3D spotting for my squad only.

    Key thing is when you are getting killed frequently you are being too aggressive, slow things down, hide and wait to see if you can start getting some kills.

    Have fun bud, and don't let it bring you down. It is much more fast paced and with the net code not up to where it was in BF1, you sometimes don't know you are taking damage until you fall deal to a random bullet from a pistol.


    Finally a supportive constructive comment on the forums instead of all the ignorant “git gud” comments. I agree completely. Great advice.

    And OP, I too had trouble making the adjustment from BF1 to BF5. Much different game. I had to slow things down and play much more defensively and think a lot more about positioning.

    As soon as I did this, learned the maps well, and finally found a few guns that work well for me....it became a lot more fun.

    Hang in there and try to play with a squad. If you ever want to play my gamer tag is EazyBreezyVeezy.

    Great advice to slow things down. 👍
    It will improve your gameplay a lot.
    And like the other guy said, remember you can run while crouching.
    And stick to cover.
    Try to use tactics you would in real life and you'll see yourself do better.
  • mgood1845
    93 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    OP another tip which may help you out is keeping an eye on the server, what i mean is, if you are in a match and getting rekt, then i will usually quit out with my squad and try to find a server with a population of players closer to my skill range. This usually allows me to find a game which I can be competitive.

  • Skitelz7
    903 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    OP another tip which may help you out is keeping an eye on the server, what i mean is, if you are in a match and getting rekt, then i will usually quit out with my squad and try to find a server with a population of players closer to my skill range. This usually allows me to find a game which I can be competitive.

    Or you can find a server that has less players allowing you to take it slower and learn the game.
  • mudpig44
    61 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.
  • ElliotLH
    6750 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    I struggle to see people too but it has gotten better after fiddling with my settings and turning off the filters. From what I gather DICE are looking to address visibility so there's some hope.

    With the zeroing issue have you unlocked the specialism for zeroing? I have on some and can't seem to get it to work so was interested whether it was the same for you?
  • skins4ever21
    201 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    ElliotLH wrote: »
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    I struggle to see people too but it has gotten better after fiddling with my settings and turning off the filters. From what I gather DICE are looking to address visibility so there's some hope.

    With the zeroing issue have you unlocked the specialism for zeroing? I have on some and can't seem to get it to work so was interested whether it was the same for you?

    I've had a couple mine with zeroing and that mess don't work at all. I had someone at 150 and 300 and fired a bunch of shots while they were still and didn't even get a hit marker. No way that mess works as intended. Probably fired 200 plus shots after zeroing be shocked if I got 1 hit marker.
  • ElliotLH
    6750 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    ElliotLH wrote: »
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    I struggle to see people too but it has gotten better after fiddling with my settings and turning off the filters. From what I gather DICE are looking to address visibility so there's some hope.

    With the zeroing issue have you unlocked the specialism for zeroing? I have on some and can't seem to get it to work so was interested whether it was the same for you?

    I've had a couple mine with zeroing and that mess don't work at all. I had someone at 150 and 300 and fired a bunch of shots while they were still and didn't even get a hit marker. No way that mess works as intended. Probably fired 200 plus shots after zeroing be shocked if I got 1 hit marker.

    Sounds like it's the same as me then.
  • mgood1845
    93 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    What system are you playing on? If you are on XBOX, with your rifle equipped, you can press and hold (Y) to cycle the distances. If you are on PlayStation try pressing and holding the (Triangle) button. Important to note, that on the faster firing rifles, i don't believe you can cycle distances with the 6x scope. I use the 1906 with a 2x scope and love it, no glint and a (2) shot kill.


    Your K/D will improve when you find a weapon and a play style that works for you. The hard part is that each map is different and plays extremely different. A map like Hamada and Panzerstorm isn't like Rotterdam and you need to find what works for you in the maps.

    Stick with it experiment with different combos, and classes, when you find a gun you like, keep it on, tweak the skill paths for the guns and see which feels best for you. I would suggest the Assault class to start with, this class has the best overall balance and is most effective at most ranges. Find a weapon you like, experiment with sights, and get comfy. You will see your K/D rise.

    Once you are a beast at the assault class , tbagg my lifeless body and send me a msg that says get rekt..... lol

    Seriously tho, have fun...be patient and your K/D will improve.
  • georgeanzelon
    62 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    edited January 12
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    I feel your pain, trust me. Just played 2 breakthrough matches and quit for the night....at 5pm. Couldn't wait to get home and play at work all day, 5pm and I'm done. My bf5 experience in a nutshell.
  • uncleduddley
    8 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Same here, I get killed from areas & angles I don't no where! Think you have to learn the sniping/lmg spots & patrol them, thing is on devastation people are lying down&i can't see them etc, with spotting & mini map Intel you have to learn the **** spots & die over, over again till you do, not enjoying this game its horrendous to play & not fun
  • Mishkin37
    678 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I believe that the reason people can't see enemies in this game is not the game's fault or DICE's fault. It's the "fault" of better graphics.

    I was watching a game clip that a friend recorded today of BF4 - a game released on this generation of consoles. Compared to BFV, BF4 looked like it was created on Microsoft Paint; the lack of textures and foliage was so noticeable. The landscape looked smooth, empty and fake. BFV looks amazing compared to BF4, but those textures and foliage hide enemies well, too.

    It's kind of like how people on minimum spec PCs had an advantage over high-end rigs on PUBG, because their cheaper computers were not populating bushes and grass at distance, so it was easier to see enemies moving that were far away.

    I'm curious to know if those who are having trouble are playing on 4K monitors/TVs. I have a 4K monitor and an X1X, and there was a German enemy laying on the ground 20 feet in front of me on Devastation last night. I couldn't see him; he blended in with the ground perfectly. Am I salty over this? No! It's realistic! Enemies don't need to glow!

    So for everyone upset about "invisible" enemies, I think it's only going to get harder to see enemies as graphics get better. They invented camouflage for a reason.

    Stay low, and stop running around in the open without your squad.
  • mudpig44
    61 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    mgood1845 wrote: »
    mudpig44 wrote: »
    I'm having same issues on top of all the glitches. I just can't see anyone. Game after game I'm just being **** and killed by people i can't see. It doesn't help I'm always begging told my latency is slow.
    So i decided to sit back and try sniping for a while. However now I've discovered my sniper rifles won't zero. They're just stuck at 60m.
    Yet another nail in the coffin for this piece of... never mind. I'm still raging after utterly destroying my kd average.

    What system are you playing on? If you are on XBOX, with your rifle equipped, you can press and hold (Y) to cycle the distances. If you are on PlayStation try pressing and holding the (Triangle) button. Important to note, that on the faster firing rifles, i don't believe you can cycle distances with the 6x scope. I use the 1906 with a 2x scope and love it, no glint and a (2) shot kill.


    Your K/D will improve when you find a weapon and a play style that works for you. The hard part is that each map is different and plays extremely different. A map like Hamada and Panzerstorm isn't like Rotterdam and you need to find what works for you in the maps.

    Stick with it experiment with different combos, and classes, when you find a gun you like, keep it on, tweak the skill paths for the guns and see which feels best for you. I would suggest the Assault class to start with, this class has the best overall balance and is most effective at most ranges. Find a weapon you like, experiment with sights, and get comfy. You will see your K/D rise.

    Once you are a beast at the assault class , tbagg my lifeless body and send me a msg that says get rekt..... lol

    Seriously tho, have fun...be patient and your K/D will improve.

    Cheers dude but yes holding Y for long time but won't change off 60m. So another glitch maybe.
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