AP Mine spamming is getting out of hand, NERF desperately needed
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I posted this right before braddock made the announcement cited here, haven't seen a discussion about AP mines(especially regarding the buff that was introduced just recently) on the forum in quit some time. Not all people visiting the bfforums constantly follow bf5 topics on reddit or twitter. As you can see this is a heavily discussed subject which makes the thread perfectly legit.
you have to pace yourself with some. its prob easier to ignore than explain. ie posting patterns
I dont frequent reddit, twitter, or youtube like these tweens so had no idea of another unintended buff. Funny how DICE breaks things without trying, but cant fix anything when they do.
Hopefully the AP isnt useless, if so then I expect pistol grenade launcher posts after the nerf
enemies are approaching. I think several good suggestions made here for mild nerfing would've been much better than just lowering the damage, e.g. limiting the amount of placeable mines to 2, or preventing them to be placed next to supply crates. Unfortunately introducing mild nerfs/buffs and waiting out the results is not something DICE is known for.
Well to be fair, everyone is complaining they are always placed around depots so they certainly have become predictable. ;-)
I honestly dont get many kills with them, I'd love to see kill #s vs placed #s. For me, I place them on areas behind or around objectives. So if ome goes off, I atleast now know they are heading to this flag for example.
I would love to see it too. Another poster posted his rate (was 13%) and I posted mine (18.5%) however I only put down 70, he put down almost 3k. It really does seem like people died a small handful of times and think it needs to be banned because they can't deal with it.
Well first of all you had like half a second more time after the audible that like 1 or 2 extra steps or an extra jump away wich can still damage you but not kill you, again only if you respond fast to it. It will be like being rewarded for goos reflexes.
That was me.
To put it into perspective, I have 11,505 Claymore kills in BF4 with an 'accuracy' of 35.19%.
whats your counter to an AT mine? Its literally the only thing that gives you a warning, and where does it rank in weapon overall kills? I'll assume well below the top 10 and you can place 3 at a time.
Doesnt matter, I always used betty as a fallback plan to bait my enemy too. MG42 will still chew you up while derping around the map with zero awareness lol.
This one was placed at our spawn, so naturally it didn't explode, but it certainly would if someone runs around next to it.
There are thousands of possibilites to place mines as shown on Devastation and I claim, that even very careful players wouldn't notice them.
Ofc, this is a not much of a problem on bigger maps like Firestorm, but on this map it definitely is.
It is only campy and defensive when people don't use their brains. We now even got a smoke bombardment which is one of the most useful reinforcements....maybe giving smoke grenades to all classes might be a good thing.
But all mines would get spotted as soon as a flare goes up. So if enemy recon is doing their job, dealing with mines is easy. Seeing as how this is a squad based game, it's nice to see that recon is good for something.
Plus I think mines work great on devastation, not because of all the rubble and debris on the floor, but because that's basically the most cqb map of bf5. So naturally most players are stuck in sprint mode.
Oh you sweet summer child...
Nobody wants to spend 90% of their time on foot peering into every crack and crevice before they move around ... don't be daft people. If you think they're hard to hide you're wrong. It's hard enough spotting actual players half the time. So be careful what you wish for - for you may get it, the game'll turn into 32 MMG campers/snipers on either team, surrounded by mines, with nobody left to run into them.
Like I said, one flare goes up, and all mines get spotted for you.
Plus, if you travel with your squad, hopefully whoever stepped on the mine can be quickly revived/healed and avenged if possible.
Strange that some players believe:
"Mines shouldn't hurt because I shouldn't have to look out for them"
I wonder why anti tank mines aren't getting this treatment? If infantry shouldn't be bothered to look out for mines, why should tanks right?
Assault has 3 dynamite or 3 Frag Grenades which can both be used as defense and offensive.
Support 3 AP mines (defense only) or 3 AT grenades (both)
Medic 3 AP mines (defense) or ?
Recon 3 AP mines (defense) , 2 decoy, 2 flares (both) and the flare only got recent buff as no one was using.
Do you see the flaw that DICE fell into. The Feedback loop nerfed every other class but Assault, AP mines only started popping up because they got buffed accident. Take it away again and what happens Assault explosive comes back creating more modes full of Assaults. I say that because when I last played Rush both teams had many medics compared to other classes.
Example
Like giving Support a perimeter flare, it would trip launching flare straight up, it could be done without spotting.
That's why I don't play Conquest, it's boring AF.
Grand Ops, Rush and Breakthrough is where it's at, fast paced action (excluding the severely drawn out conquest day in GO.).
Full on PTFO or GTFO. No time for KD ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, crying over AP mines.
I really don't "check the ground" and know what... i detect the AP mines more often than i die to them...
but yea many ppl here just want to run around like headless chicken. run and gun, rinse and repeat...
That's not Battlefield!
In Battlefield u always had to watch your surroundings. why should that be different in BFV?
btw i don't really play with AP mines anymore long before they buffed them... (5 smokes medic is too good)
but if i do so i don't get more kills with the higher damage version.