AP Mine spamming is getting out of hand, NERF desperately needed

ragnarok013

I can't believe that anyone seriously has issues with AP mines. I rarely die from them simply because I use my eyes and I especially look at areas such as medic and ammo refill stations instead of just blindly rushing in. This isn't an AP mine issue this is a player issue.

von_Campenstein

ragnarok013 said:

I can't believe that anyone seriously has issues with AP mines. I rarely die from them simply because I use my eyes and I especially look at areas such as medic and ammo refill stations instead of just blindly rushing in. This isn't an AP mine issue this is a player issue.

I think the main issue is the volume, they used to be 1 class gadgets, why 3 classes now has them is anyones guess since most so called skilled players always complain about passive weapons, to deflect from their own shortcomings in utilizing their gadgets I'm sure.

Trokey66

On the rare occasions I die to AP Mines, it is almost exclusively my own fault.

VOLBANKER

Trokey66 said:

herodes87 wrote: »

Still don't get why 3 classes need AP Mines. It was clear from the beginning that it is a Bad Idea.

The ONLY 'issue' with AP Mines I have is why Medic?

Just doesn't fit for me......

They do have a combat role called Combat Medic though

Trokey66

VOLBANKER wrote: »

Trokey66 said:


herodes87 wrote: »
Still don't get why 3 classes need AP Mines. It was clear from the beginning that it is a Bad Idea.



The ONLY 'issue' with AP Mines I have is why Medic?



Just doesn't fit for me......

They do have a combat role called Combat Medic though

No doubt a throw back to archetypes (Sp?) where they may have made more sense with different weapons etc but as roles now just change specs, not so much so......

Hawxxeye

CaptHotah said:

Hawxxeye wrote: »

CaptHotah said:
Passive gadgets are for mediocre players at best. Good for memes not so much for winning the round...

The Assault "skillcannons" on the other hand...

...got 65% wins. You got 45%. Numbers...

Because a stat that can be manipulated by either quitting a lot or by playing mostly with friends and/or clans holds any relevance in this discussion.

A_al_K_pacino_A

Would less people use them if they could pick some sort of anti-tank gadget. I think BF1 had it about right with every class having a little something against tanks*.



*I know tanks aren't that great but it's a separate issue.

DingoKillr

A_al_K_pacino_A said:

Would less people use them if they could pick some sort of anti-tank gadget. I think BF1 had it about right with every class having a little something against tanks*.



*I know tanks aren't that great but it's a separate issue.

It is not tank but anything that could kill would get selected. 

DrunkOnRedWine

Were the AP mines stealthily nerfed in the last patch as I'm not getting half as many kills? Sad stuff

sabootheshaman

TEKNOCODE wrote: »

llPhantom_Limbll wrote: »

TEKNOCODE wrote: »

Hawxxeye wrote: »

Why do obscure gadgets get such a nerf bandwagon?

It wouldn’t be gaming without cryharding.

Do I raise my fist and scream into the tv with a single tear flowing down my cheek when I die from one or three of these? Maybe.

Was it my fault for headless chickening around the ammo station? Absofreekinglutley.

Current bf community can't accept the fact of being outplayed by someone else. So they find reasons after reasons why X thing is not their fault blaming everything else but themselves.

Unfortunately, it’s gaming as a whole.

People scream “hax!” or “nerf!” instead adapting gameplay or gitting gudder.

Totally.

I also think although this BF has some massive issues, the gadgets are not one.

Everything seems to be able to be countered. Mines can be shot, so can sporting flares. Yet people have all sorts of histrionics when they cause a death.

IDirtY_SeCreT

Did they patch the AP mines? I'm getting 99 dmg atm with 2 of them which means you need three now.

DrunkOnRedWine

IDirtY_SeCreT said:

Did they patch the AP mines? I'm getting 99 dmg atm with 2 of them which means you need three now.

I think so as one mine seems to get less than 50 damage now. I see frequent damage but no kill. These act as a marker of where the enemy is rather than anything else

von_Campenstein

DrunkOnRedWine said:

IDirtY_SeCreT said:

Did they patch the AP mines? I'm getting 99 dmg atm with 2 of them which means you need three now.

I think so as one mine seems to get less than 50 damage now. I see frequent damage but no kill. These act as a marker of where the enemy is rather than anything else

With blood trails that would be good enough.

Trokey66

DrunkOnRedWine wrote: »

IDirtY_SeCreT said:
Did they patch the AP mines? I'm getting 99 dmg atm with 2 of them which means you need three now.


I think so as one mine seems to get less than 50 damage now. I see frequent damage but no kill. These act as a marker of where the enemy is rather than anything else

They do seem a bit weaker, getting a lot of 98's and 99's recently.

Noromiz

In my last 10 Breakthrough games I died from AP Mines once and those where my own (someone shot them)

I really do not see them as OP right now and there are certainly no real tactical reason to use them on Recon or Medic over their other tools, for the Support I sometimes us them on infantry only maps as the AT Mines and Sturmpistole is kinda useless there (the Sturmpistole can be used to take down enemy fortification if I am attacking, but it isn't really all that amazing).
I rarely get any kills though, mostly because I can never remember how many I have placed so I end up not having anyone down at all.

GrandMG42CamPeR

I am the bettyman currently with 2016 kills Fjell is the best map for it. I always plant 2-3 of them for the guaranteed kill. Many times I got triple/quad kills

DigimortalDrones

Imagine in WWII and Vietnam where "mines and traps" plagued these two wars and people actually used their situational awareness to carefully look out for AP Mines, tripwires, bamboo traps and either destroy or disarm them. You can too in BFV. Follow these 3 simple steps:

Step 1: Open your eyes.

Step 2: Apply common sense and personal situational awareness.

Step 3: Repeat steps 1 and 2.

ViolationofDerp

Noromiz said:

In my last 10 Breakthrough games I died from AP Mines once and those where my own (someone shot them)

I really do not see them as OP right now and there are certainly no real tactical reason to use them on Recon or Medic over their other tools, for the Support I sometimes us them on infantry only maps as the AT Mines and Sturmpistole is kinda useless there (the Sturmpistole can be used to take down enemy fortification if I am attacking, but it isn't really all that amazing).
I rarely get any kills though, mostly because I can never remember how many I have placed so I end up not having anyone down at all.

Like I said before, this thread was opened three patches ago, when AP mines were single hit kills. Damage output has been reduced dramatically since than. I'd agree with the recent patch, it seems like they're even a little underpowered now.

I'd be happy if this thread would just die, since the issue has been resolved.

DrunkOnRedWine

ViolationofDerp said:

Noromiz said:

In my last 10 Breakthrough games I died from AP Mines once and those where my own (someone shot them)

I really do not see them as OP right now and there are certainly no real tactical reason to use them on Recon or Medic over their other tools, for the Support I sometimes us them on infantry only maps as the AT Mines and Sturmpistole is kinda useless there (the Sturmpistole can be used to take down enemy fortification if I am attacking, but it isn't really all that amazing).
I rarely get any kills though, mostly because I can never remember how many I have placed so I end up not having anyone down at all.

Like I said before, this thread was opened three patches ago, when AP mines were single hit kills. Damage output has been reduced dramatically since than. I'd agree with the recent patch, it seems like they're even a little underpowered now.

I'd be happy if this thread would just die, since the issue has been resolved.

Well I regurgitated the thread as my beloved AP mines are now about as useful as a chocolate teapot, I guess the nerf brigade can rub their hands together with glee.

parkingbrake

DrunkOnRedWine said:

Were the AP mines stealthily nerfed in the last patch as I'm not getting half as many kills? Sad stuff

They seem to be more difficult to place, spots that used to accept them now are off-limits.  Yes, eventually enough tears will erode the willpower of DICE and they'll nerf almost anything.  If they'll nerf the SRAW in BF4, they'll nerf anything.