BFV is a campy, try hard, insta death bore.

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BURGERKRIEG
783 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member

That’s how I saw it described on the forums the week and it’s true.

There is only a minority of players enjoying it. Most people don’t like the core gameplay experience. 

This is why servers are being shut down 8 months into the game’s life cycle. It’s not because of lack of content or that there is stuttering on PC or that some assignment is bugged. Or this issue or that gripe. 

Unless this fact is admitted and addressed by overhauling the gameplay the player base will continue to rapidly dwindle.

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  • CHAMMOND1992
    969 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Wrong. A major part is lack of content, whether its, rank, medals, maps, skins and so on.
  • marcanthony421
    107 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    It is a campy mess but maybe its cuz im try hard but i do enjoy the core gameplay, i look at the camping meta as separate from the core of the game that’s super lethal gunplay and a reliance on teammates to get the job done. Sure i’d much rather lone wolf it, but if camping werent the meta i think i’d have infinitely more fun because the core is solid. Its the meta that needs work.
  • BURGERKRIEG
    783 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I completely agree with the OP. BFV gameplay is campy due to low recoil weapons and a fast TTK. It rewards stationary defensive gameplay. Also known as turrent strategy.

    Then there's the low visibility issue compounding the camping even further. Players just get frustrated, bored, and find a new game to play.
    Agreed.

    These are the two major issues that the current supporters of the gameplay won’t entertain as a major problem.

    Yet the facts still stand.

    Base game features are being cut due to the fact the are no longer sustainable.

    Servers are officially confirmed as being switched off in the U.K. and Ohio.

    This is happening because of the 7 million people who did buy the game, there aren’t enough playing to merit the expense of paying for the servers.

    EA won’t even make the player count public. That speaks volumes.

    ”But I like it.” isn’t a solution. Continuing without revising the gameplay will not reverse the decline of the title.



  • BURGERKRIEG
    783 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Change or die.

    It is simple.

    Doing more of the same thing will only intensify the current problem.

    Sticking with the current course, pretending the original plan was sound and driving the ship deeper into the iceberg is madness.

  • trip1ex
    4486 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha Member
    Hey nothing wrong with complaining as long as you are giving reasons for your complaining.

    I could do without all the complaining with no reasoning.  

    Although at this point do we have to give any reasoning?  Most of the reasoning has been given 1000x over.  I get to the point where I just post more andmore  in shorthand basically and if you want the reasons read the old posts.  Bad enough that by the time you get on page 2 of any thread you get the same questions and dumb comments that were either answered or countered on the first page.  




  • BURGERKRIEG
    783 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member

    That’s how I saw it described on the forums the week and it’s true.

    There is only a minority of players enjoying it. Most people don’t like the core gameplay experience. 

    This is why servers are being shut down 8 months into the game’s life cycle. It’s not because of lack of content or that there is stuttering on PC or that some assignment is bugged. Or this issue or that gripe. 

    Unless this fact is admitted and addressed by overhauling the gameplay the player base will continue to rapidly dwindle.

    Opinions are like, ummm, noses, everybody has one.

    I don't find the gameplay a problem, most of the things that bother me in BFV qualify as outside issues, like the horrible Live Service business model that has provided little new content, the weak anti-cheat, the poor network performance (DICE has now admitted the "stuttering" is happening on consoles too) and of course the lack of rented servers (which they claim are coming back).

    You're free talk yourself into believing that everyone but you is prone with a machine-gun, but I don't see that, most of the opponents I engage are on their feet.  If this game had launched with rented servers and paid DLC resulting in many more new maps there would be a lot more people playing, and it wouldn't be necessary for guys like you to moan about the game being "campy" and blaming that for declining player counts.  You can like or dislike what you please--don't assume you speak for the majority.
    You just don’t want to hear it. All the BF games had bugs. Network issues etc. This one is failing to retain a player base. That can’t be ascribed the business model entirely.
  • ez4u2hit
    22 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    That’s how I saw it described on the forums the week and it’s true.There is only a minority of players enjoying it. Most people don’t like the core gameplay experience. This is why servers are being shut down 8 months into the game’s life cycle. It’s not because of lack of content or that there is stuttering on PC or that some assignment is bugged. Or this issue or that gripe. 
    Unless this fact is admitted and addressed by overhauling the gameplay the player base will continue to rapidly dwindle.

    Well said. I tried very hard to enjoy bf1 and struggled through to level 50 but barely got any of my achievements done or perks unlocked. Level 150's were dominating every game, I never even saw who killed me once. My kd was around 0.2.
    I was hoping BFV would be different but all the hardcore bf1 guys switched over.
  • CHAMMOND1992
    969 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member

    That’s how I saw it described on the forums the week and it’s true.

    There is only a minority of players enjoying it. Most people don’t like the core gameplay experience. 

    This is why servers are being shut down 8 months into the game’s life cycle. It’s not because of lack of content or that there is stuttering on PC or that some assignment is bugged. Or this issue or that gripe. 

    Unless this fact is admitted and addressed by overhauling the gameplay the player base will continue to rapidly dwindle.

    Opinions are like, ummm, noses, everybody has one.

    I don't find the gameplay a problem, most of the things that bother me in BFV qualify as outside issues, like the horrible Live Service business model that has provided little new content, the weak anti-cheat, the poor network performance (DICE has now admitted the "stuttering" is happening on consoles too) and of course the lack of rented servers (which they claim are coming back).

    You're free talk yourself into believing that everyone but you is prone with a machine-gun, but I don't see that, most of the opponents I engage are on their feet.  If this game had launched with rented servers and paid DLC resulting in many more new maps there would be a lot more people playing, and it wouldn't be necessary for guys like you to moan about the game being "campy" and blaming that for declining player counts.  You can like or dislike what you please--don't assume you speak for the majority.
    You just don’t want to hear it. All the BF games had bugs. Network issues etc. This one is failing to retain a player base. That can’t be ascribed the business model entirely.
    The very idea that you think the game play is the core issue here shows you have selecting hearing. If BFV had a solid launch and content on par with BF4 or BF3, BFV wouldn't be a mess. This TTK nonsense all started with BF1, even though BF4 and BF3 had very similar TTK. BF3 still retains the fastest gameplay of any BF I have played. Bunny hopping, high sprint speed( increased further with perk), hardly any rock, paper, scissor balance philosophy, and people still regard it as one of the better titles.
  • ez4u2hit
    22 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Wrong. A major part is lack of content, whether its, rank, medals, maps, skins and so on.

    I disagree
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