Nerf the spitfires already...

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SerSkrungus
38 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
Come on it's been months now and the German planes STILL cant hold their own against the British planes. Its trash, I get that immersion is important but so is balance and this game DEFINITELY lacks balance in that area. The british fuselages can eat flak rounds and rounds from other aircraft I watch them dump throttle, stall out and INSTA-RECOVER there is virtually no way to level your German aircraft, the only German aircraft worth its weight is the JU-88 that's because it's a flying anvil. You shouldn't have to fly an F-18 hornet to compete against the spitfires. It is just VERY frustrating to see that after ALL this time you can still spam a Spitfire and ALWAYS come out on top. Not to mention the obvious imbalances in the other vehicle departments. Got British tanks eating Tiger rounds whilst the tiger takes 2 hits from a piat and is done. That is GARBAGE. I mean if you're gonna go full on accuracy for the planes then why is it a frickin churchill tank (the frickin little one) can defeat a King Tiger? I am not asking for a lot here am I? I cannot be the only one who would like to see that fixed.

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  • Kongo030
    615 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    I almost completely stopped playing vehicles unless it's for an assignment.
  • zombifiedstalker
    291 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Chuck Yeager once said "It`s the man, not the machine..."
    Which is probably why I get shredded every time I get in a plane haha
  • NLBartmaN
    3039 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    With (vehicle) hitreg "being fixed" with todays patch, I can guarantee you the Spitfires will be back to be even more insane OP today.

    It was so nice that the Spitfire could only destory my bomber when they were actual capable pilots (or have a very bad connection) since the previous patch, now it is back to no flying again.

    Every naab can stay up in the air with a Spitfire and destroy bombers and SAA.
  • SirBobdk
    3923 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 4
    The have no clue how to make air and BFV air is the worse in the series imo. Mechanichs are garbage, balance is garbage and so are the upgrade trees.
  • okiie_918
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    G-2 hands down best plane!
  • IDirtY_SeCreT
    529 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    The passenger mg upgrade of the Blenheim is even better than the VA :D
  • krispykrem3
    1 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    the G2 is a god same as the VB with 4x 7.92 and improved surface control there is nothing unbalanced here the g2 gets air burst rockets you see a spitfire stalling?? bye bye 2 rockets heading your way i dont see any issues with the balance between the two the issue lies with the mechanic of stalling yourself out
  • Elephante33
    132 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    just becuase the Allies have a good plane is not a reaosn to Nerf, thats the short sighted ness that lead to tank nerfs. Just end this stupid thing about sepeerating the 7 mm and 20 mm guns. ho thought that was a good idea? it sure as hell wasnt how the real planes operated
  • Beastin_Ur_Maw
    9 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    I much prefer being on the Germans, as the G2 is by far the best fighter.

    If a G2 is behind you then you better hope the enemy pilot plays with 1 hand because it is so easy to take out spitfires with those 2 rockets or at least hit once and finish off with cannons.

    Also the 8x guns on the spitfire over heats far too quickly, the g2 2x20mm cannons don't overheat at all so you can literally annihilate a spitfire in one strafe.

    Don't understand the OP in the slightest with this..
  • TFBisquit
    1318 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    They should have air maps and ground maps only. It's not hard to create bombing sites and put fighter planes against the bombers with escorts, and your regular dogfights ofcourse.
  • Elephante33
    132 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    TFBisquit said:
    They should have air maps and ground maps only. It's not hard to create bombing sites and put fighter planes against the bombers with escorts, and your regular dogfights ofcourse.
    dont be so sure, programming takes ALOT of work and as we have already seen, the devs are squeezed hard enough as it is. a bomber defense game mode would require all new path finding done for the bombers, maybe even a whole new map, idk if the current maps have the space for it without it being too crowded
  • Hawxxeye
    5163 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 7
    I much prefer being on the Germans, as the G2 is by far the best fighter.

    If a G2 is behind you then you better hope the enemy pilot plays with 1 hand because it is so easy to take out spitfires with those 2 rockets or at least hit once and finish off with cannons.

    Also the 8x guns on the spitfire over heats far too quickly, the g2 2x20mm cannons don't overheat at all so you can literally annihilate a spitfire in one strafe.

    Don't understand the OP in the slightest with this..
    the 20mm cannons actually have drop unlike the 8xlmgs that can snipe planes halfway across the map.
    900m/s with no drag and drop vs 600m/s with drag and drop
    Post edited by Hawxxeye on
  • eorzkmien
    11 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    The VA in reasonably competent hands is impossible to beat once you've got one on your tail. A single burst usually cripples your plane and with a clipped wing the superior manoeuvrability won't make a difference. If you're facing up against two Spitfires in a G2 or G6, you're pretty much done, their spec tree is far superior. For the VA you get the 8x.303, smoke, emergency repair and radar in addition to the bombs. The radar makes it impossible to get the drop on any decent pilot and even if you somehow manage to get on his tail, he can spam smoke and pop emergency repair. The G2 simply doesn't have the damage output unless you get close enough to use the rockets and the G6 with the 4xMG is too vulnerable and still not on par in terms of damage with the VA.
  • SerSkrungus
    38 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Seriously back to a "no fly zone" in this game, I legitimately gave flying my g-2 a shot and while it's true, the plane isn't not fully leveled up, I got outmaneuvered by 2 different bombers and anytime a spitfire showed up I was gone immediately. I mean I am not a bad pilot I am not saying I am the red baron or anything but dang i cant even hardly get spotting flares off before i am shot down by a spitfire or even a freaking mosquito bomber, even though I read through the last few patch notes and I cannot remember which one but it said something to the effect of "bombers should not be able to outmaneuver fighters anymore".
    Yet still, here I am with my planes collecting dust because there isn't a balanced way to level them anymore, unless you spammed your way from the very beginnings of this games online days you're fairly screwed trying to fly.
  • Raspu71nG
    108 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 15
    both planes are beasts. but the G2 is more powerful just because it turns better.
    but it all depends on who is chasing who, but if the Spitfire can not catch the G2, and it turns into a turning fight then the G2 will win. 

    The spitfire VA can destroy a full health G2 in a single burst easily in under 2 seconds.
    the G2 20mm can also do it, but if you just hit him a few times, it will disable his wings even if you do not aim at the wings.

    both are OP.
    if the G2 pilot is good you better choose the VB version.
    maybe wings repair and nitrous is better but im not a fan of wing repair. 
  • The_BERG_366
    2257 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    g2's dogfight loadout is so much better than the one of the Va. 4x7.92 beams enemy fighter (probabaly better than the 8x303 as those decrease firerate sooooo quickly now) and you have improved armor and wings for headons. finally also better surfaces which improve rolling rate. if two equally capable pilots going up against each other without any one of them surprising the other then the g2 pilot will win.

    also @NLBartmaN if you have decent aim with the lower backgun of the junker you will destroy enemy fighters as this backgun's ttk is lot faster than the ttk of a fighter on the bomber.
  • NLBartmaN
    3039 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member

    also @NLBartmaN if you have decent aim with the lower backgun of the junker you will destroy enemy fighters as this backgun's ttk is lot faster than the ttk of a fighter on the bomber.
    You will be already destroyed before you can seatswitch ...

    Next to that, the front guns of a fighter are a lot more accurate, have more range and are easier to aim with ... faster TTK can't compensate for that.

    Fighters are just insane OP and need a serious nerf.
  • ElliotLH
    7712 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Seriously back to a "no fly zone" in this game, I legitimately gave flying my g-2 a shot and while it's true, the plane isn't not fully leveled up, I got outmaneuvered by 2 different bombers and anytime a spitfire showed up I was gone immediately. I mean I am not a bad pilot I am not saying I am the red baron or anything but dang i cant even hardly get spotting flares off before i am shot down by a spitfire or even a freaking mosquito bomber, even though I read through the last few patch notes and I cannot remember which one but it said something to the effect of "bombers should not be able to outmaneuver fighters anymore".
    Yet still, here I am with my planes collecting dust because there isn't a balanced way to level them anymore, unless you spammed your way from the very beginnings of this games online days you're fairly screwed trying to fly.
    Mosquito is bit of a weird one I think as it's more of a fighter-bomber rather than a straight up bomber. It's true that the patch did sort out bombers outmanoeuvring fighters, as I used to run rings around fighters in the JU88C and can't any longer really, but if something like the Mosquito MKII or JU88C with their plane-melting guns manages to get on your tail then you're basically toast.
  • The_BERG_366
    2257 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    NLBartmaN said:

    also @NLBartmaN if you have decent aim with the lower backgun of the junker you will destroy enemy fighters as this backgun's ttk is lot faster than the ttk of a fighter on the bomber.
    You will be already destroyed before you can seatswitch ...

    Next to that, the front guns of a fighter are a lot more accurate, have more range and are easier to aim with ... faster TTK can't compensate for that.

    Fighters are just insane OP and need a serious nerf.
    no you are not, what are you talking about? maybe if you don't see them coming but then you'll have to work on your game awareness. 
    next front guns are not more accurate, wtf :joy: ? more range? seriously what are you even talking about? easier to aim with? not really either. of course the bomber is the "sitting duck" so to say while the fighter can manoeuvre a lot better so in that sense you are at an advantage with a fighter and of course the fighter has an easier time to stay on target. however most fighters will fly in a straight line at you  as long as your bomber flies in a straight line as well because they want to hit all their shots. if you're carefully aim your shots you will beam him in an instant.
    regarding the harder to aim part it is basically the same as in an infy fight when one guy is moving and the other one isnt. of course the one that is moving has an easier time to stay on target than the one that isn't but that doesnt mean that the gun that the moving guy is using is easier to aim with. 

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