RTX 2070 is now better than GTX 1080 Ti in BF V

MOSSAD-RECRUITER
340 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
Well, actually the new "Super" version, which is priced the same as the first version. 500 bucks. Better than GTX 1080 Ti and almost as good as RTX 2080. I bet in overclocked mode, it will be like RTX 2080 out of the box.

This is the card, if you are on a midrange budget. Combined with the new Ryzen 7 3700X or even 5 3600, you will have a good gaming PC for a low price. But, if you plan upgrade system now, or buy a new PC, wait some weeks to see benchmarks of the new AMD video cards!

Just a tip.

Benchmark: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvida-geforce-rtx-2070-super/9.html

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  • TFBisquit
    1843 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Hmm got my eye on a 9900k but my eldest son is going for the new high end ryzen.
    I think I'm gonna wait and see how ryzen does.
    As for videocards, in my country we pay for the fps, so I usually get a high end one when it's near eol and a bit cheaper.
  • Lahoo_Eckbert
    1293 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Sadly I bought 2060 as soon as it came out because of it's price.
    Haven't tested out 2070 but price/performance 2060 might still be the king, especially if you get your hands on a card that OC's well(unfortunatelly mine doesn't).

  • Jinko_itx
    751 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    i would say it will come close to the 2080, but not pass it
  • Jinko_itx
    751 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 2019
    TFBisquit said:
    Hmm got my eye on a 9900k but my eldest son is going for the new high end ryzen.
    I think I'm gonna wait and see how ryzen does.
    As for videocards, in my country we pay for the fps, so I usually get a high end one when it's near eol and a bit cheaper.
    im using a 2080 Ti and my cpu goes up to 80% usage with my i9 9900k, so if you don't have a 2080 Ti, you prolly wont need to get that cpu as it will not be utilized depending on your video card 
    example: 2070 = i7 8700k  2080 = i7 9700k  2080 Ti = i9 9900k   
  • Jinko_itx
    751 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Well, actually the new "Super" version, which is priced the same as the first version. 500 bucks. Better than GTX 1080 Ti and almost as good as RTX 2080. I bet in overclocked mode, it will be like RTX 2080 out of the box.

    This is the card, if you are on a midrange budget. Combined with the new Ryzen 7 3700X or even 5 3600, you will have a good gaming PC for a low price. But, if you plan upgrade system now, or buy a new PC, wait some weeks to see benchmarks of the new AMD video cards!

    Just a tip.

    Benchmark: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvida-geforce-rtx-2070-super/9.html

    I do agree, the new Ryzen chip are supposed to be bad ****, I might consider myself...
  • Lahoo_Eckbert
    1293 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Jinko_itx said:
    TFBisquit said:
    Hmm got my eye on a 9900k but my eldest son is going for the new high end ryzen.
    I think I'm gonna wait and see how ryzen does.
    As for videocards, in my country we pay for the fps, so I usually get a high end one when it's near eol and a bit cheaper.
    im using a 2080 Ti and my cpu goes up to 80% usage with my i9 9900k, so if you don't have a 2080 Ti, you prolly wont need to get that cpu as it will not be utilized depending on your video card 
    example: 2070 = i7 8700k  2080 = i7 9700k  2080 Ti = i9 9900k   
    8700k beats 9700k due to hyper threading in certain applications.
    It is also more expenseive
    So I wouldn't necessarily say that 9700k > 8700k

    Ps: Yes, intel devs are schmucks.
  • CSO7777
    1501 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Jinko_itx said:
    TFBisquit said:
    Hmm got my eye on a 9900k but my eldest son is going for the new high end ryzen.
    I think I'm gonna wait and see how ryzen does.
    As for videocards, in my country we pay for the fps, so I usually get a high end one when it's near eol and a bit cheaper.
    im using a 2080 Ti and my cpu goes up to 80% usage with my i9 9900k, so if you don't have a 2080 Ti, you prolly wont need to get that cpu as it will not be utilized depending on your video card 
    example: 2070 = i7 8700k  2080 = i7 9700k  2080 Ti = i9 9900k   
    8700k beats 9700k due to hyper threading in certain applications.
    It is also more expenseive
    So I wouldn't necessarily say that 9700k > 8700k

    Ps: Yes, intel devs are schmucks.
    For gaming in general the 9700K and 9900K are the fastest CPUs (and still faster than Ryzen3). Even in productivity the 8700K is often slower than the 9700K. HT does not scale 100% in most applications (if ever). The performance difference between the 9700K and 9900K is not that big in real life even though the 9900K has twice the number of cores (due to HT).

    But you can find some benchmarks where the 8700K is faster than 9700K, but it's only a select few. Also 9700K has some hardware spectre/meltdown fixes that makes them a little faster in some situations. That being said, the 8700K is still a good CPU and it could probably still be used with a 2080TI without bottlenecking the GPU (too much) in most games. An 8700K with a 2080TI would still be faster than a 8700K with a 2080...
  • Smither3D
    1 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Well, actually the new "Super" version, which is priced the same as the first version. 500 bucks. Better than GTX 1080 Ti and almost as good as RTX 2080. I bet in overclocked mode, it will be like RTX 2080 out of the box.

    This is the card, if you are on a midrange budget. Combined with the new Ryzen 7 3700X or even 5 3600, you will have a good gaming PC for a low price. But, if you plan upgrade system now, or buy a new PC, wait some weeks to see benchmarks of the new AMD video cards!

    Just a tip.

    Benchmark: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvida-geforce-rtx-2070-super/9.html

    Of course it is , GTX 2070 was able to go through to better results or similar in other games ... 2080 is the next level of that , basically depends on the games
  • xKusagamix
    1045 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    The new RTX 2070 Super is a lower bin of the RTX 2080, so ofcourse it'll out perform the GTX 1080Ti.

    If you watch Gamer Nexus video about inspecting the PCB and the GPU die of the RTX 2070 Super you'll see it's the same PCB as the RTX 2080, and instead of the TU104 GPU die, it's now TU106-410 while the RTX 2080's GPU die is TU106-400. So basically it's a harvested RTX 2080 in disguise.
  • VonReisler
    568 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    why would you get a 2070 super when and AMD 5700xt beats it hands down in BFV for $100 less? lol

  • Lahoo_Eckbert
    1293 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkA-yCrl_A4

    New GPU benchmarks(2060 super 2070 super, Radeon 5700 and 5700xt and older cards).

    In BFV DX 11 5700XT beats 2080 in 1440p and 1080p

    5700xt is a 400$ card mind you and 2080 is 700$.


  • MOSSAD-RECRUITER
    340 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    why would you get a 2070 super when and AMD 5700xt beats it hands down in BFV for $100 less? lol

    Mostly, it depends on the eco-system. For instance, taking advantage of a G-Sync screen already invested ahead. There are other features too, that AMD does not provide.
    Also bear in mind, that specific test is FE edition. Some other third-party cards tend to run better. The AMD is not a bad choice though, and hopefully they can also force the Nvidia prices down. Lets see.

  • Lahoo_Eckbert
    1293 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Price/performance AMD(both CPU and GPU) has intel beat at this point. But by a very small margin. 
    In some titles Intel's far ahead and in some titles AMD is pulling ahead.
    But both the price and performance differences aren't huge, except for the new 3900x(12 core 24 thread) which is in 9900K's price range(only 10 $ more) and completely destroys 9900K in all of the non gaming tasks. And by destroy I mean almost twice the performance. 

    IF you forget about the pricing tho, intel is still the gaming king but AMD is not that far behind, contrary to past gen GPU and CPU's.
  • TFBisquit
    1843 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I have to say that in 2011 I bought the 2600k, while the better choice would be 2500k.
    Still, it runs bfv around 100 fps to this day, so this is what I also have in mind with my next CPU.
    I will upgrade my current gtx1080 (bottlenecked by my CPU according to tech people) to either a 2080 or even 3080 series. By then it won't bottleneck the 9900k.
    And eventually the videocard will surpass that also. Can't avoid a bottleneck, but I can improve my fps, left or right side.
    Anyway, it seems the 3900x is the one for me to keep an eye on. The pricing will play a factor too in this.
  • Fish7O2
    204 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkA-yCrl_A4

    New GPU benchmarks(2060 super 2070 super, Radeon 5700 and 5700xt and older cards).

    In BFV DX 11 5700XT beats 2080 in 1440p and 1080p

    5700xt is a 400$ card mind you and 2080 is 700$.


    Why are they testing in DX 11?  My 2080 gains another 30 fps in DX12 compared to DX11. Just seems odd. 

    I truly  hope AMD outperforms NVidia at a lower price point, it only makes it better for consumers.
  • Lahoo_Eckbert
    1293 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Fish7O2 said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkA-yCrl_A4

    New GPU benchmarks(2060 super 2070 super, Radeon 5700 and 5700xt and older cards).

    In BFV DX 11 5700XT beats 2080 in 1440p and 1080p

    5700xt is a 400$ card mind you and 2080 is 700$.


    Why are they testing in DX 11?  My 2080 gains another 30 fps in DX12 compared to DX11. Just seems odd. 

    I truly  hope AMD outperforms NVidia at a lower price point, it only makes it better for consumers.
    I think they are testing in DX11 because still majority of the PC gamers run games on Dx11(and most games are better optimized at dx11) .
  • MOSSAD-RECRUITER
    340 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 2019
    Ryzen 3rd generation come with free cooler, so that must be taken into account when comparing prizes with Intel. It also consume less power, so that must also be taken into account in the long run. Most people do more than gaming, so the 3900x is a much better choice than 9900k now. It also supports PCIe 4 which will bring more bandwidth on upcoming graphic cards and so on. And higher RAM frequencies, including official supported.

  • xKusagamix
    1045 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Fish7O2 wrote: »
    Lahoo_Eckbert said:


    New GPU benchmarks(2060 super 2070 super, Radeon 5700 and 5700xt and older cards).

    In BFV DX 11 5700XT beats 2080 in 1440p and 1080p

    5700xt is a 400$ card mind you and 2080 is 700$.




    Why are they testing in DX 11?  My 2080 gains another 30 fps in DX12 compared to DX11. Just seems odd. 

    I truly  hope AMD outperforms NVidia at a lower price point, it only makes it better for consumers.
    Because DX12 is a hit or miss while DX11 will 99% guarantee to work w/o any problem.
  • TFBisquit
    1843 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Battlefield 5 is a dx11 game. At least that's what I understood.
  • xKusagamix
    1045 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    TFBisquit wrote: »
    Battlefield 5 is a dx11 game. At least that's what I understood.
    Well, for some unknown reasons, DX12 in Battlefield doesn't alway work properly. Other game like Rise of the Tomb Raider that added DX12 seem to alway work. DX12 was also a hit or miss in BF1. In BFV DX12 is required to use Ray Tracing, so you could say that it's a DX12 game but not working properly as it should.
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