K bullets need to do more damage to cavalry

dbibby1988 · January 30, 2018 3:37PM

If you're a sniper who is out in the open, then you'll find it hard to compete against a cavalry. You need to position yourself close to cover, buildings, trees etc. It makes you a much harder target when the cavalry comes and you can pop shots at it as it runs by/off in to the distance. Are you really expecting to 1 on 1 a cavalry as the sniper class?

b2tchwood · January 30, 2018 4:21PM

dbibby1988 wrote: »

If you're a sniper who is out in the open, then you'll find it hard to compete against a cavalry. You need to position yourself close to cover, buildings, trees etc. It makes you a much harder target when the cavalry comes and you can pop shots at it as it runs by/off in to the distance. Are you really expecting to 1 on 1 a cavalry as the sniper class?

The issue here is that there is a lack of options to tackle elites and cavalry, headshot elite = 12 headshot elite with k bullet = 16 if I remember correctly. My point is that k bullets should be a viable option for tackling elites, I’m not asking for a one hit kill but a damage increase to make the k bullet a legitimate choice. It seems absurd that 5 headshots with armour piercing bullets and a much slower reload doesn’t kill an elite/ cavalry IMO. I need to check the damage stats still, I’m going to try to get this tested.

dbibby1988 · January 30, 2018 4:37PM

b2tchwood wrote: »

dbibby1988 wrote: »

If you're a sniper who is out in the open, then you'll find it hard to compete against a cavalry. You need to position yourself close to cover, buildings, trees etc. It makes you a much harder target when the cavalry comes and you can pop shots at it as it runs by/off in to the distance. Are you really expecting to 1 on 1 a cavalry as the sniper class?

The issue here is that there is a lack of options to tackle elites and cavalry, headshot elite = 12 headshot elite with k bullet = 16 if I remember correctly. My point is that k bullets should be a viable option for tackling elites, I’m not asking for a one hit kill but a damage increase to make the k bullet a legitimate choice. It seems absurd that 5 headshots with armour piercing bullets and a much slower reload doesn’t kill an elite/ cavalry IMO. I need to check the damage stats still, I’m going to try to get this tested.

Yeah I know what you mean, but you could also argue that the sniper class isn't really designed to take down elites/vehicles. The only way you'll stand a 'legit' chance of taking them down, is if you're with other team members who are all shooting at it all at once. Or as somebody else said, trap them with trip wire bombs.

b2tchwood · January 30, 2018 4:58PM

dbibby1988 wrote: »

b2tchwood wrote: »

dbibby1988 wrote: »

If you're a sniper who is out in the open, then you'll find it hard to compete against a cavalry. You need to position yourself close to cover, buildings, trees etc. It makes you a much harder target when the cavalry comes and you can pop shots at it as it runs by/off in to the distance. Are you really expecting to 1 on 1 a cavalry as the sniper class?

The issue here is that there is a lack of options to tackle elites and cavalry, headshot elite = 12 headshot elite with k bullet = 16 if I remember correctly. My point is that k bullets should be a viable option for tackling elites, I’m not asking for a one hit kill but a damage increase to make the k bullet a legitimate choice. It seems absurd that 5 headshots with armour piercing bullets and a much slower reload doesn’t kill an elite/ cavalry IMO. I need to check the damage stats still, I’m going to try to get this tested.

Yeah I know what you mean, but you could also argue that the sniper class isn't really designed to take down elites/vehicles. The only way you'll stand a 'legit' chance of taking them down, is if you're with other team members who are all shooting at it all at once. Or as somebody else said, trap them with trip wire bombs.

Not designed to take out vehicles but I don’t see why elites are off the table. If snipers, being a high calibre round, are not meant to take out elites then when are assault, medic and support weapons so effective against them. They should do much less damage. Basically if the elite is to be viewed as a vehicle then explosives would be the only viable option for all classes. But again this is just for the k bullet to be made a viable option against them, it won’t be insta kill but at least elites and cavalry have to be wary of snipers where right now it’s open season.

H3rr_Trigg3r · January 30, 2018 5:09PM

Wasn't cavalry armor nerfed? I'm fine with K Bullets doing more damage if and only if the cavalry armor returns to what it was while you're on the horse. If not, count me out.

b2tchwood · January 30, 2018 6:14PM

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

Wasn't cavalry armor nerfed? I'm fine with K Bullets doing more damage if and only if the cavalry armor returns to what it was while you're on the horse. If not, count me out.

It was nerfed when you are off the horse ie. you are just regular health then.

H3rr_Trigg3r · January 30, 2018 6:17PM

b2tchwood wrote: »

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

Wasn't cavalry armor nerfed? I'm fine with K Bullets doing more damage if and only if the cavalry armor returns to what it was while you're on the horse. If not, count me out.

It was nerfed when you are off the horse ie. you are just regular health then.

Almost feels like it is nerfed on the horse too. Seems weaker. Maybe it isn't but it feels like it is.

Gforce81 · January 30, 2018 6:19PM

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

b2tchwood wrote: »

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

Wasn't cavalry armor nerfed? I'm fine with K Bullets doing more damage if and only if the cavalry armor returns to what it was while you're on the horse. If not, count me out.

It was nerfed when you are off the horse ie. you are just regular health then.

Almost feels like it is nerfed on the horse too. Seems weaker. Maybe it isn't but it feels like it is.

Lol, that "feel" is without the TTK changes. Good luck doing anything with Cav now

H3rr_Trigg3r · January 31, 2018 2:38AM

Gforce81 wrote: »

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

b2tchwood wrote: »

H3rr_Trigg3r wrote: »

Wasn't cavalry armor nerfed? I'm fine with K Bullets doing more damage if and only if the cavalry armor returns to what it was while you're on the horse. If not, count me out.

It was nerfed when you are off the horse ie. you are just regular health then.

Almost feels like it is nerfed on the horse too. Seems weaker. Maybe it isn't but it feels like it is.

Lol, that "feel" is without the TTK changes. Good luck doing anything with Cav now

Yeah, that's a great point. :-(

blindsniper63 · January 31, 2018 5:29AM

I love the Cavalry class, enjoy!

dbibby1988 · January 31, 2018 7:35AM

blindsniper63 wrote: »

I love the Cavalry class, enjoy!

Lol the guy in this thread is talking about the sniper class v cavalry. Nice video though!

blindsniper63 · January 31, 2018 8:21AM

dbibby1988 wrote: »

blindsniper63 wrote: »

I love the Cavalry class, enjoy!

Lol the guy in this thread is talking about the sniper class v cavalry. Nice video though!

Yes I know mate but you can one hit cavalry with a syringe, shoot him and rocket gun him but struggle with K bullets.Taking out vehicles with K bullets but poor damage through a tin vest.

i40ozz · January 31, 2018 2:18PM

K Bullets suck against pretty much all vehicles, i don't really see the point to a buff.

If you wanna kill Cavalry change classes to assault, you know, the class that is supposed to take out vehicles.

zoinkersScoob · February 1, 2018 1:10PM

One thing that is hard to keep in mind, for me at least, is that Cavalry is a vehicle.

I think the reason people ( like me) are upset, annoyed, frustrated or nerfcallingoutraged is that they think of it as a fast moving infantry.

DankDope99 · February 1, 2018 5:01PM

andusciass_51tk wrote: »

One thing that is hard to keep in mind, for me at least, is that Cavalry is a vehicle.

I think the reason people ( like me) are upset, annoyed, frustrated or nerfcallingoutraged is that they think of it as a fast moving infantry.

My objection to the cavalry issue is this

The cars and motorcycles are vehicles too, but those don't give you magical juggernaut superpowers. I shoot a rider in a part of the body with no armor and it does 18 damage or some ridiculously low damage. Shoot the same guy in the arm that's in a car and it does 70-80 damage.

Cavalry is not just a vehicle, its a fast moving support medic with armor

That being said, I don't think they're broken but they could use a little tweaking

zoinkersScoob · February 2, 2018 1:06AM

You are right in that they are not a transport vehicle and neither are they a tank.

Cavalry are a special kind of vehicle but should be considered a vehicle non the less.

RussianPorcupine · February 21, 2018 7:18PM

Agreed. K Bullets do need to do more damage to cavalry. K Bullets are meant to damage vehicles like trucks, tanks, and planes. In that case, they need to do more damage to horses as well. Good discussion.

Ninja_da_Noite · February 21, 2018 7:50PM

Cavaliers have a cape of invincibility! 20 shots and they keep running... Better than Duracell

Saddisticspeller · February 22, 2018 2:28AM

Oh boy one more thing to make the extremely underpowered class more underpowered.

Yay

kreepypriest · February 22, 2018 4:47AM

my aunts horse put her leg in a hole and made it lame...1 round from my 303 british ended it’s pain..but in battle field a person could empty their scout rifles into a horse and watch it gallop away.

K bullets need to do more damage to cavalry

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