mixing fire and gas grenades

Jakeben200
postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha Member
isn't it that when you mix fire with gas it normaly, well explodes.
so why is it that in this game when a fire grenade and a gas grenade are within a small radius, it doesn't create an explosion? ever thought of that?

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  • IG-Calibre
    978 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    edited July 2018
    mustard Gas (used in ww1) isn't combustible I think. The Blimps on the other hand, went with a bang.
  • ElliotLH
    9546 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    IG-Calibre wrote: »
    mustard Gas (used in ww1) isn't combustible I think. The Blimps on the other hand, went with a bang.

    You're correct about mustard gas: https://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/5083

    "Mustard gas is a clear amber colored oily liquid with a faint odor of mustard/garlic. It is not readily combustible. Its vapors are heavier than air, are very toxic, and can be absorbed through the skin. The effects from exposure to the material include blindness which may be delayed. Prolonged exposure of the container to fire or intense heat may cause it to violently rupture and rocket. Mustard gas is also known as dichlorodiethyl sulfide".
  • Qwagm1re
    332 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Jakeben200 wrote: »
    isn't it that when you mix fire with gas it normaly, well explodes.
    so why is it that in this game when a fire grenade and a gas grenade are within a small radius, it doesn't create an explosion? ever thought of that?

    What happened in school for you? Did you not pay attention? Do you think gas is the same thing that goes into cars?
  • hawkseye17
    586 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Gas grenades are likely Chlorine gas considering it is green. It has nothing to do with the gas you put in a car
  • Matty101yttam
    1466 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Need to be throwing break fluid grenades :)
    Although the gas is like bf itself, facts are only used enough to make gameplay, once a gas grenade was established all facts went out the window and it's just a mysterious thrown gas emitting object, what it is and how it works is left vague so they can do whatever they like with them.
  • Rufusw5
    138 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Qwagm1re wrote: »
    Jakeben200 wrote: »
    isn't it that when you mix fire with gas it normaly, well explodes.
    so why is it that in this game when a fire grenade and a gas grenade are within a small radius, it doesn't create an explosion? ever thought of that?

    What happened in school for you? Did you not pay attention? Do you think gas is the same thing that goes into cars?

    Absolutely no need for this. The community in this forum can be unbelievably toxic.
  • ProAssassin2003
    3865 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    God don't give them ideas.
  • boutneus
    2484 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    Not all gas is combustible, derp
  • KermitJ
    388 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    The gas grenades whether they be grenade, tank shells or realeased like smoke, or mortar truck are in fact chlorine gas. In short yes especially when mixed with iron It can be.

    Chlorine gas, also known as bertholite, was first used as a weapon in World War I by Germany on April 22, 1915 in the Second Battle of Ypres.[82][83] As described by the soldiers, it had the distinctive smell of a mixture of pepper and pineapple. It also tasted metallic and stung the back of the throat and chest. Chlorine reacts with water in the mucosa of the lungs to form hydrochloric acid, destructive to living tissue and potentially lethal. Human respiratory systems can be protected from chlorine gas by gas masks with activated charcoal or other filters, which makes chlorine gas much less lethal than other chemical weapons. It was pioneered by a German scientist later to be a Nobel laureate, Fritz Haber of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Berlin, in collaboration with the German chemical conglomerate IG Farben, which developed methods for discharging chlorine gas against an entrenched enemy.[84] After its first use, both sides in the conflict used chlorine as a chemical weapon, but it was soon replaced by the more deadly phosgene and mustard gas.[85]


    Chlorine is a toxic gas that attacks the respiratory system, eyes, and skin.[97] Because it is denser than air, it tends to accumulate at the bottom of poorly ventilated spaces. Chlorine gas is a strong oxidizer, which may react with flammable materials.[98][99]

    The element iron can combine with chlorine at high temperatures in a strong exothermic reaction, creating a chlorine-iron fire.[108][109] Chlorine-iron fires are a risk in chemical process plants, where much of the pipework that carries chlorine gas is made of steel.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorine
  • Matty101yttam
    1466 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 2018
    TBH i suggested that gas and incendiary grenades set each other off a while back, i thought mixing the 2 to create an explosion before cancelling each other out would lead to a whole other level of strategy and tactics with grenades.

    also:
    KermitJ wrote: »
    The gas grenades whether they be grenade, tank shells or realeased like smoke, or mortar truck are in fact chlorine gas. In short yes especially when mixed with iron It can be.

    Wrong, irl they may have been, but irl they would be useless in the quantities and situation used in game, open terrain the area would be clear enough to breath in seconds. In game the gas is "DiCe 69", it has the same weight as air so is able to 'hang' without being dispersed by gravity, breaks down very quickly but can also penetrate matter including stone and brick(this may suggest why you cant just hold your breath for a few seconds).
  • Ameeba37
    1753 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    TBH i suggested that gas and incendiary grenades set each other off a while back, i thought mixing the 2 to create an explosion before cancelling each other out would lead to a whole other level of strategy and tactics with grenades.

    Because more gas, fire and explosives are just what the game needs
  • Matty101yttam
    1466 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited July 2018
    It would actually reduce the effects, it would take 2 grenade effects and turn them into 1 which instantly disappears. Your not getting extra grenades, they'd be the same ones your throwing out anyhow.
  • KermitJ
    388 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    TBH i suggested that gas and incendiary grenades set each other off a while back, i thought mixing the 2 to create an explosion before cancelling each other out would lead to a whole other level of strategy and tactics with grenades.

    also:
    KermitJ wrote: »
    The gas grenades whether they be grenade, tank shells or realeased like smoke, or mortar truck are in fact chlorine gas. In short yes especially when mixed with iron It can be.

    Wrong, irl they may have been, but irl they would be useless in the quantities and situation used in game, open terrain the area would be clear enough to breath in seconds. In game the gas is "DiCe 69", it has the same weight as air so is able to 'hang' without being dispersed by gravity, breaks down very quickly but can also penetrate matter including stone and brick(this may suggest why you cant just hold your breath for a few seconds).

    Very very true! I agree with you
  • KriZ_Rul3Z
    296 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Okay not gonna happen in this game, BUT the idea of having one "prep" gas grenade that doesn't do anything, just visibly fills a room with a gas, then have a teammate set off that gas with a second grenade. Needs two people, but creates a big bang. Interesting idea. :wink:
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