so , planning on buying Battlefield V or not?

Comments

  • GRIZZ11283
    4839 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    VincentNZ wrote: »
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    suffice_ls wrote: »
    Weird how no one's really talking about how EA's probably conning us with the promise of free DLC.

    How does one get conned with free DLC?

    Its free, the amount is completely irrelevant, even if they gave 1 map over it's lifecycle, it was given free, not sure how anybody is being conned, it's not like anybody paid for it.

    With no premium, I personally expected next to nothing in terms of DLC, which I have said to the premium naysayers.

    You are getting lured in with promises though: They say we are going to see the full spectrum of WWII, from 1940 to 1945, will fight everywhere and handle everything that existed. That is the scope of the game. And it might even hold true, if the game is a huge success, or if they go the R6S route, in delivering content constantly and therefore getting community respect (R6 live service was never meant to be, it was born out of necessity).
    So this is one good example of a live service, but from another publisher. Doesn't Overwatch follow the same system? EA so far had Titanfall II, after not selling well did deliver a couple of maps and Battlefront II, which was a mess in many ways. Also we have Premium for BF1 which was a huge fail for the players with the content lagging behind, just to give stuff away three months after it was released.
    So naturally consuer trust is pretty low. If the game does not sell all too well, after the polarizing beta, do you think we will still see all theatres of war over the course of 18 months? Or if it is an economic success, would they reinvest that money into gameplay-related content at a satisfying rate, or instead try to sell pink goggles #13 or worn firefighter red paint for the upper receiver of the MP40 #3?

    They do promise a heck of a lot, although no player exactly knows what they will deliver on. At least with Premium you would know what you would actually get beforehand and it is still a good system for a game that has a healthy player base, if your release schedule is on point.

    Who's being lured in with promises? Certainly not me.
    I don't listen to their sales pitch.

    I played the game, that's enough for me to make my mind up, all the other stuff is based on the trust of a company, and with EA's track record, one would be fool to put trust in that.
    As long as the game works on release in some manner, I'll be happy.
    I expect nothing in terms of DLC now premium has gone, so anything I get after the release will be a bonus.
  • ThievenBalance
    183 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    ScoobyDDoo wrote: »
    must be a technique or good timing thing, i've been in BF4 chopper and died on first hit with a stinger, been on BF3 and able to escape after two stinger hits long enough to repair. I will concede anyway not really a big difference but they are indeed different lol

    After 2 stinger hits in bf3 you were dead. In bf4 as well,but you werent disabled after 1 hit. The only lockon that could kill you with 1 hit(without soflam) was the hvm,a battlepickup.

    nah, not if you can fly away enough to regenerate which BF3 is more forgiving than BF4. After two stingers before you can Flare or Extinguish or ECM maybe. Anyway these things are not really what matters because like you have already mentioned BF4 has the tools to destroy the vehicles, BF3 has the ability to get away and regenerate easier. BF4 even has a brain fart if you try to use countermeasures too often or try to reload too often. So really all hype and gold Battlepacks aside BF3 vehicles are a bit tougher than BF4 vehicles plus they are different while the same but still different.

    BF4 has improved and aesthetically is better than BF3 but BF3 still has it's glory moments. I might go out on a limb and say BF4 is just a bit more difficult to play than BF3 because it's bloated with specialisations and handbags err Battlepacks.
  • VincentNZ
    2701 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    VincentNZ wrote: »
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    suffice_ls wrote: »
    Weird how no one's really talking about how EA's probably conning us with the promise of free DLC.

    How does one get conned with free DLC?

    Its free, the amount is completely irrelevant, even if they gave 1 map over it's lifecycle, it was given free, not sure how anybody is being conned, it's not like anybody paid for it.

    With no premium, I personally expected next to nothing in terms of DLC, which I have said to the premium naysayers.

    You are getting lured in with promises though: They say we are going to see the full spectrum of WWII, from 1940 to 1945, will fight everywhere and handle everything that existed. That is the scope of the game. And it might even hold true, if the game is a huge success, or if they go the R6S route, in delivering content constantly and therefore getting community respect (R6 live service was never meant to be, it was born out of necessity).
    So this is one good example of a live service, but from another publisher. Doesn't Overwatch follow the same system? EA so far had Titanfall II, after not selling well did deliver a couple of maps and Battlefront II, which was a mess in many ways. Also we have Premium for BF1 which was a huge fail for the players with the content lagging behind, just to give stuff away three months after it was released.
    So naturally consuer trust is pretty low. If the game does not sell all too well, after the polarizing beta, do you think we will still see all theatres of war over the course of 18 months? Or if it is an economic success, would they reinvest that money into gameplay-related content at a satisfying rate, or instead try to sell pink goggles #13 or worn firefighter red paint for the upper receiver of the MP40 #3?

    They do promise a heck of a lot, although no player exactly knows what they will deliver on. At least with Premium you would know what you would actually get beforehand and it is still a good system for a game that has a healthy player base, if your release schedule is on point.

    Who's being lured in with promises? Certainly not me.
    I don't listen to their sales pitch.

    I played the game, that's enough for me to make my mind up, all the other stuff is based on the trust of a company, and with EA's track record, one would be fool to put trust in that.
    As long as the game works on release in some manner, I'll be happy.
    I expect nothing in terms of DLC now premium has gone, so anything I get after the release will be a bonus.

    The game as a service is part of the deal though. It is their main selling point, too. It is also how their additional revenue system will work. They are telling us that their game was designed with that goal in mind, to deliver a long-term commitment for players and dev team. If you decide to buy this game for the release version than this is your personal choice. I myself find the 60€ pricetag very steep and their future design concept unsubstantial. That is why we have a thread like this, many players feel that way.
    They want to believe it will work out like in BF3 and 4 that they will play this game for two years straight and get regular updates instead of buying a product that loses it's playerbase within half a year where expectations and quality just fall apart, like in BF1.
  • StormSaxon
    648 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    I pre ordered.
    I viewed the trailer with concern. The misogynistic whining from the incels didn’t put me off. But it was a BAD and messy trailer that did not sell the game very well.
    But I kept the pre order. It CAN NOT be as trashy as BF4. I told myself.
    Beta did a lot to clear up any concerns. A very different beast to BF1... but better.
    Hard to say much else until I see what other maps and guns and factions come in the game initial game.
  • suffice_ls
    491 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    edited September 2018
    StormSaxon wrote: »
    It CAN NOT be as trashy as BF4. I told myself.

    Haha, geeeze!!

    Apart from the rubber banding at launch, I've gotta know: how was BF4 trashy??

    The variety of gameplay mechanics and tactics, the scale and extent of destruction, the verticality and pace!

    We all have our opinions, but damn man, yours must've been based on some really really bad experience with BF4.
  • ZombieP1ow
    669 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    suffice_ls wrote: »
    StormSaxon wrote: »
    It CAN NOT be as trashy as BF4. I told myself.

    Haha, geeeze!!

    Apart from the rubber banding at launch, I've gotta know: how was BF4 trashy??

    The variety of gameplay mechanics and tactics, the scale and extent of destruction, the verticality and pace!

    We all have our opinions, but damn man, yours must've been based on some really really bad experience with BF4.

    exactly, I still play BF4, and it's a great game. BF3 (imo)was the worst, followed by BF1. Hardline isn't a BF game, it's a one-off with the same franchise title.
  • StormSaxon
    648 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Hated it. I did play it a lot as my friends all played it. But I deleted as soon as BF1 was released... but I don’t think I went back after hardline either..

    It’s launch was bad. And it stayed terrible for a long time. Like a whole year. The maps were terrible... the guns were almost exactly the same ones as in BF3 with a few removed.. yawn.
    The deaths you’d get would make no sense... even though that can be a problem in BF1, it’s less of an issue.
    It didn’t seem to offer anything better or more unique to BF3 except for being less well designed... I saw it as a “flashier” BF3 but with crappy maps, glitchier, laggier and less team work, and less entertaining despite being on a PS4... (BF3 I was on ps3) ....

    Happiest gaming day was when the squad moved from BF4 to BF1.
  • WALKINGCORPSE1
    499 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    bf4 is still awesome imo.
  • suffice_ls
    491 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    StormSaxon wrote: »
    Hated it. I did play it a lot as my friends all played it. But I deleted as soon as BF1 was released... but I don’t think I went back after hardline either..

    It’s launch was bad. And it stayed terrible for a long time. Like a whole year. The maps were terrible... the guns were almost exactly the same ones as in BF3 with a few removed.. yawn.
    The deaths you’d get would make no sense... even though that can be a problem in BF1, it’s less of an issue.
    It didn’t seem to offer anything better or more unique to BF3 except for being less well designed... I saw it as a “flashier” BF3 but with crappy maps, glitchier, laggier and less team work, and less entertaining despite being on a PS4... (BF3 I was on ps3) ....

    Happiest gaming day was when the squad moved from BF4 to BF1.

    Wow, fair enough. I'm the exact opposite, which is fair enough...as I said, we all have our opinions. Can't argue against the rubber banding except for the fact that it was fixed within 2 months, max.

    Hated every second of BF1. What I loved about BF4 -- "The variety of gameplay mechanics and tactics, the scale and extent of destruction, the verticality and pace" -- all gone.

    Which brings me back on-topic...Hopefully, BFV has some semblance of what hooked me on BF4.
  • FightinFinn187
    722 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    edited September 2018
    suffice_ls wrote: »
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    You was pushing an agenda about the white male bs being filtered, but left out the other words that also shouldn't have been filtered, to suit your agenda hence the narrative comment, deflect all you like, it's there in writing.

    HAHA did you really just put your foot in your own crap?? So, your use of the word "narrative" was indeed about more than just the mere chat filter and did indeed deserve the "lifestory" response that it got. Deflect all you like, but gotta wonder who's really the one deflecting here :D

    But yeah, I am DONE with this guy! Is it possible for members to block other members on these forums?

    Yeah they're nothing but a troll. About every fanboy forum warrior on here all like to gang up on anyone saying anything negative about BFV harassing them pretty much, I mean even DICE can see all the negativity and problems from the open beta but these forum warriors can't for some reason, blind loyalty perhaps? Idk.

    But like Shiggles said an extra month to play RDR2 before it comes out is great for me.

    I have seen the light, im not with them anymore.
  • Sixclicks
    5073 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    suffice_ls wrote: »
    StormSaxon wrote: »
    It CAN NOT be as trashy as BF4. I told myself.

    Haha, geeeze!!

    Apart from the rubber banding at launch, I've gotta know: how was BF4 trashy??

    The variety of gameplay mechanics and tactics, the scale and extent of destruction, the verticality and pace!

    We all have our opinions, but damn man, yours must've been based on some really really bad experience with BF4.

    The launch of BF4 was pretty horrendous. I couldn't even play the game for longer than 5 minutes on PC when it first launched for the first couple of months. I didn't return to the game until the China Rising DLC came out and I was actually able to play the game.

    A lot of the maps were pretty boring to me. Some assault rifles were ridiculously OP especially in combination with being able to heal and revive as assault. There were plenty of casual mechanics in BF4 too.

    I wouldn't say the game overall was trash (it certainly was at launch), it definitely became a pretty good game in the end. But I don't really think it was the holy grail of BF games like so many people act like it was. I do really wish we had the private servers of those days though.
  • VincentNZ
    2701 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    I never experienced any issues with BF4, not in the beta not at the start and certainly not in the later dev stages. The only technical issue I had was when Mantle was introduced and caused bugs, there I had framedrops and rainbowcolours on the maps, but as far as I can remember that was either one day or I simply turned off Mantle. Never had saw the netcode issues either, stuff like this gets amplified when playing out of the home region or when the connection is unstable.
    The only issue that angered me from the service perspective was that PC players were forced to wait three months longer for the Second Assault Maps, which was due to both bugs and generally the issues with Playstation, as far as I recall.

    From a gameplay perspective it was inferior to BF3, because the maps did not even come close in quality. The best ones surely were the remastered maps. However that changed with a couple of DLCs out, when I just looked for servers that played a rotation that I liked, which was easy enough, so I rarely had to set a foot back into Lancang Dam or Shanghai.
    Balance wise the only major issue was that PDWs were obsolete since Carbines were all-class weapons. The issue was resolved further down the line, so everything was good. So after 9 months the game was in a state of very good balance.

    Matter of fact, compared to BFV and 1, BF4 at all times ran smoother and with less crashes, both in Beta and full release. I've certainly had the most issues with the BFV beta compared to Alpha and previous betas. I probably had about 10-12 crashes (including the death loop revive bug) and numerous differenty infuriating bugs and performance issues. DX12, for example quadrupled my already long load times and cut my FPS by 10-15. With the start of each round I had framedrops that would gradually get better. And of course the biggest offender is Origin and it's implementation with the game's UI/UX, which never worked without severe problems.
  • Sixclicks
    5073 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited September 2018
    VincentNZ wrote: »
    I never experienced any issues with BF4, not in the beta not at the start and certainly not in the later dev stages. The only technical issue I had was when Mantle was introduced and caused bugs, there I had framedrops and rainbowcolours on the maps, but as far as I can remember that was either one day or I simply turned off Mantle. Never had saw the netcode issues either, stuff like this gets amplified when playing out of the home region or when the connection is unstable.
    The only issue that angered me from the service perspective was that PC players were forced to wait three months longer for the Second Assault Maps, which was due to both bugs and generally the issues with Playstation, as far as I recall.

    From a gameplay perspective it was inferior to BF3, because the maps did not even come close in quality. The best ones surely were the remastered maps. However that changed with a couple of DLCs out, when I just looked for servers that played a rotation that I liked, which was easy enough, so I rarely had to set a foot back into Lancang Dam or Shanghai.
    Balance wise the only major issue was that PDWs were obsolete since Carbines were all-class weapons. The issue was resolved further down the line, so everything was good. So after 9 months the game was in a state of very good balance.

    Matter of fact, compared to BFV and 1, BF4 at all times ran smoother and with less crashes, both in Beta and full release. I've certainly had the most issues with the BFV beta compared to Alpha and previous betas. I probably had about 10-12 crashes (including the death loop revive bug) and numerous differenty infuriating bugs and performance issues. DX12, for example quadrupled my already long load times and cut my FPS by 10-15. With the start of each round I had framedrops that would gradually get better. And of course the biggest offender is Origin and it's implementation with the game's UI/UX, which never worked without severe problems.

    Lol, I forgot about Mantle. I had an AMD system at the time (don't any more). It definitely increased my max frame rate, but I had almost constant frame drops after trying that out. Had to go back to DX.

    I had constant packet loss issues at the launch of the game which would kick me from a match 5 minutes after joining the server every time. I tried everything I could to fix it, but couldn't find a solution. A couple months later when the China Rising DLC released, I was suddenly able to play without that issue on the same PC and same connection as before. I found tons of players complaining about it online, but never found a viable solution during those first couple of months. Netcode wasn't particularly great in the beginning imo either. I played a lot of hardcore at the time, and getting hit around corners was pretty common.
  • B3ANTOWN__B3A5T
    4364 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    GRIZZ11283 wrote: »
    Mystriall wrote: »
    warslag wrote: »
    BFV seems like a waste of resources and a missed opportunity/disappointment for Battlefield fans since we don't know when, or if, they will ever make a proper WWII BF game again but in the way a lot of BFers would've imagined it.


    Plus, the strategic design principle of BFV, we were told, was to unite the 'community'. Well, they definitely haven't done that.


    If the price came down very considerably and if the game became less of a cheesy console hybrid, then maybe there's a small chance that as a BF fanatic I may find a few shekels for it.

    Just ditch the old wars already. BF4 is one of the best shooters ever made. BF needs to come back to modern times or even a slight jump to the future.

    Yet in terms of sales it hasn't done as well as BF3 and BF1.

    :lol: how we laughed when he said one of the greatest shooters ever made :lol:

    It 100% is one of the best ever. Certainly the launch was bad but once the game got fixed it was amazing. The last couple BFs pale in comparison and I'm not sold on BF5 living up to it either

    In your opinion.

    I find it boring, certainly not better than 3 or 1 imo.

    Everything on here is opinion. BF3 and 4 were both great but BF1 doesnt even belong in the same sentence as those games.

    Whatever, to each his own I guess
  • doctorrocktor
    1798 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    I might have bf4 as my morning alarm,beep beep beep beep.
  • 2uneducated4_BF5
    50 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha Member
    Unfortunately, I am forbidden from buying this game.
  • B3ANTOWN__B3A5T
    4364 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    Unfortunately, I am forbidden from buying this game.

    I need to hear more of this story
  • 2uneducated4_BF5
    50 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha Member
    Unfortunately, I am forbidden from buying this game.

    I need to hear more of this story

    You may refer to Patrick Söderlund.
  • GRIZZ11283
    4839 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE Member
    Unfortunately, I am forbidden from buying this game.

    I need to hear more of this story

    You may refer to Patrick Söderlund.

    Dramatic much :)
Sign In or Register to comment.