Server Rental Questions?

GUNNY1966 · October 31, 2018 12:38PM

So many are asking within my community what exactly is the plan in regard to server rental & exactly how does one obtain that information? We would like to have a server up & running A.S.A.P. but not much has been mentioned in regard & also what is the Administrative Tools available? There are going to be numerous questions in regard to this so possibly a locked thread that describes in detail all the specific information. I've also noticed there are tons of post here for other versions & I'm specifically asking for the PC Server Rental!

madman001able · October 31, 2018 1:27PM

I would be happy if they got rid of them. They were misused way to often, and admin abuse was rampant in every bf game that allowed server rental.

GUNNY1966 · October 31, 2018 1:44PM

That's only because you played in a server & didn't know the admins & the players associated with that specific server! If your going to play in a server you should play with friends whom you know & those whom are willing to be not just casual gamers but friends for life! Most of the guys I play with I've personally come to know over the past 8 years. I have some members whom I've played with over 22 years & each I consider good friends! If your from the U.S. or Canada look us up- KILLEM & CHILLEM!

MONEYPYR0 · October 31, 2018 1:52PM

madman001able wrote: »

I would be happy if they got rid of them. They were misused way to often, and admin abuse was rampant in every bf game that allowed server rental.

I hope they don't get rid of em, because I want to play some private games with my friends every so often. I did a few 2v1s in BF4 with a couple friends, and they were so fun. I've rarely ever encountered admin abuse, including back in BF3.

madman001able · October 31, 2018 1:59PM

GUNNY1966 wrote: »

That's only because you played in a server & didn't know the admins & the players associated with that specific server! If your going to play in a server you should play with friends whom you know & those whom are willing to be not just casual gamers but friends for life! Most of the guys I play with I've personally come to know over the past 8 years. I have some members whom I've played with over 22 years & each I consider good friends! If your from the U.S. or Canada look us up- KILLEM & CHILLEM!

And this ^^^ mentallity is why they became a problem in the first place.

NLBartmaN · October 31, 2018 2:10PM

madman001able wrote: »

And this ^^^ mentallity is why they became a problem in the first place.

What some call abuse, others call admining something in spirit of the way the server was ment to be used ..

If you pay for and set up a server with certain rules and idea behind it and others don't know or care for those rules it may look like abuse, but the admin is just making sure the server is used in the way it was ment to be used.

The whole idea about Rental servers is you can use them the way you want, since you pay for them (within certain limits)

For example:

tonight is the HvZ event and only VIPS are allowed to use guns, the rest can only use certain grenades and a knive.
Break those rules once and you get kicked, do it again and you get a ban forthe rest of the event.

Same for servers that state they have a ping limit, you will be kicked if you go above that.

Some one that not sees or ignores that "rule" might think it is admin abuse.

Or if some players that rent a server hate (spawn)campers, abusers of certain weapons/tactics or certain other attitude/behaviour.

The biggest "problem" I think is communication about what is allowed/preferred or simply ignoring the "rules".

madman001able · October 31, 2018 2:27PM

What some call admining others call weapon/vehicle boosting, and kill farming. 😆

madman001able · October 31, 2018 2:35PM

I will not have a problem with server rentals when dice removes the ability to gain XP, Cc, class levels, weapon levels, and vehicle levels from rented servers.

MONEYPYR0 · October 31, 2018 2:39PM

madman001able wrote: »

I will not have a problem with server rentals when dice removes the ability to gain XP, Cc, class levels, weapon levels, and vehicle levels from rented servers.

Not gonna happen, lol. You either have to have your settings as a ranked server, or private, which removes XP. I literally only ever play rented servers, because they usually have a map rotation I prefer.

NLBartmaN · October 31, 2018 2:41PM

madman001able wrote: »

I will not have a problem with server rentals when dice removes the ability to gain XP, Cc, class levels, weapon levels, and vehicle levels from rented servers.

They can indeed make some limitations on what you can gain (within a round/time period) from rental servers to keep things fair.

madman001able · October 31, 2018 2:43PM

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

I will not have a problem with server rentals when dice removes the ability to gain XP, Cc, class levels, weapon levels, and vehicle levels from rented servers.

Not gonna happen, lol. You either have to have your settings as a ranked server, or private, which removes XP. I literally only ever play rented servers, because they usually have a map rotation I prefer.

Well then guess what, they are going to be abused and therefore should not be put in.

madman001able · October 31, 2018 2:45PM

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class/Cc levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

CrashCA · October 31, 2018 2:49PM

Ongoing discussion here:

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/142791/bfv-dedicated-servers#latest

Short answer: NO word at all from EA

MONEYPYR0 · October 31, 2018 2:49PM

madman001able wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

I will not have a problem with server rentals when dice removes the ability to gain XP, Cc, class levels, weapon levels, and vehicle levels from rented servers.

Not gonna happen, lol. You either have to have your settings as a ranked server, or private, which removes XP. I literally only ever play rented servers, because they usually have a map rotation I prefer.

Well then guess what, they are going to be abused and therefore should not be put in.

Whatever you say man. I've literally only ever seen 1 server where 2 guys were boosting, and I put a stop to it, and I've rarely encountered admin abuse, so either you just have bud luck in servers you join, or you hardly play in them, which is whag it seems like.

CrashCA · October 31, 2018 2:53PM

madman just go play on Official servers.

madman001able · October 31, 2018 2:55PM

madman001able wrote: »

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

Read above ^^^

NLBartmaN · October 31, 2018 2:59PM

madman001able wrote: »

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

I think it has more to do with the fact servers can kick high pingers and people with "unwanted" customizations .. and indeed boosting company coins (or whatever it is called) with which you can get stuff others will have to grind a long time or pay for.

But that last part is something they can easily prevent by adding limitations on rental servers.

MONEYPYR0 · October 31, 2018 3:00PM

madman001able wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

Read above ^^^

And read my statements. You do realize you have to have an active lobby to even start playing, right?

madman001able · October 31, 2018 3:01PM

Don't hate the player, hate the game...developers lol.

madman001able · October 31, 2018 3:16PM

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

Read above ^^^

And read my statements. You do realize you have to have an active lobby to even start playing, right?

You do realize that ENTIRE GROUPS would get together to boost, right?

MONEYPYR0 · October 31, 2018 3:17PM

madman001able wrote: »

MONEYPYR0 wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

madman001able wrote: »

Now with that being said, why do you think dice is being so tight lipped about server rentals? I believe it's got something to do with them stating that there would be nothing in the game that players can pay for that will give them a in-game advantage. Boosting vehicle/weapon/class levels can give players an in-game advantage. Rented servers give players a paid for, easy way to boost which goes against what dice said. Understand?

Read above ^^^

And read my statements. You do realize you have to have an active lobby to even start playing, right?

You do realize that ENTIRE GROUPS would get together to boost, right?

I'm done talking with you man, I'm just getting a headache from this. You do not get my point at all, and I'm done trying to explain it. Don't like rented servers? Don't play them. But don't take away the ability for people to get them.

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