I'm ashamed of BF5

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  • ackers75
    2652 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    ackers75 wrote: »
    Am pretty sure it’s a darn sight more polished than this!

    What you mean the reskin, with the same maps, same weapons with different names, same specialists, graphics that look like they are from last gen consoles and atrocious hit detection as with every Treyarch cod.

    Eh never mentioned reskin?
  • toeknee724
    67 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    It's like everyone has forgotten how Battlefield game launches go. Every battlefield game starts out horrible,(aside from BF1) then is improved over time. BF4 was arguably the worst BF game on release. Now in my opinion it's the best. BF1 was the first battlefield ever that released fairly well. Should we have to wait months and months for a game we paid full price for to be good? No. But this is and probably always will be Dice's Battlefield release formula. It's what I expect when I buy a Battlefield game on release. I expect bugs, balance issues and an over all unpolished game. I've just gotten used to it. BFV absolutely needs work, I believe it will get the fixes and balances we need over time. I'm enjoying the game as is, trying to look around it's current problems and looking forward to what it will eventually be. Again, I'm not saying this is ok. It's just how it's always been with BF games.
  • ackers75
    2652 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited January 2019
    toeknee724 wrote: »
    It's like everyone has forgotten how Battlefield game launches go. Every battlefield game starts out horrible,(aside from BF1) then is improved over time. BF4 was arguably the worst BF game on release. Now in my opinion it's the best. BF1 was the first battlefield ever that released fairly well. Should we have to wait months and months for a game we paid full price for to be good? No. But this is and probably always will be Dice's Battlefield release formula. It's what I expect when I buy a Battlefield game on release. I expect bugs, balance issues and an over all unpolished game. I've just gotten used to it. BFV absolutely needs work, I believe it will get the fixes and balances we need over time. I'm enjoying the game as is, trying to look around it's current problems and looking forward to what it will eventually be. Again, I'm not saying this is ok. It's just how it's always been with BF games.

    I know you mean well but your all that’s wrong with the average battlefield consumer.
    How many other products do you give a free pass on?

    Car?
    Movies?
    Electrical goods?

    Why is gaming any different
    Just because gaming has the ability to use the patching process does it make it ok to release poor software?
  • Psycomad
    70 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Shame SHAME (bell rings) Shame SHAME (bell rings)
  • LeesSummit09
    493 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    As far as everyone running toward the Tiger tank, same happened in BF1 with behemoth train. Once it arrived, it was actually the only time team worked together to take out an objective. Seen the train go down in a very short time over and over by an onslaught of attackers. I think many people miss the diversion from standard gameplay the behemoths brought, so now it's tanks.
  • StingX71
    828 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    These are the kinds of posts from new accounts that I cant take serious especially when they say the game is like COD and why cant it be like BF1.

    They don't give supporting facts. CoD is garbage.......having said that. BLOPS 4 with armor has higher TTK than BF V, and now with Blackout, it's not as Apple to Oranges as it use to be. Fact both offer less than previous titles is a glaring similarity. WWII's War Mode felt like lighter versions of some BF Modes. Actually enjoyed the mode, lacked maps and didn't feel fully supported by the studio.
    ackers75 wrote: »
    Am pretty sure it’s a darn sight more polished than this!

    I haven't played BO4, but i think currently, as much as it pains me to say it (and never thought i would say it), COD WW2 is probably better than this. In fact, i think it's the same game with smaller maps, quick respawn and more bells and whistles, but pretty much the same TTK and theory.

    WW2 was "meh" for me. No where near as good as WaW. BLOPS 4 is also okay, but it's a step backwards graphically. The skins/camo/weapon customization is silly. I'd rather they put the effort in more maps.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    edited January 2019
    macknoob wrote: »
    OomBoom wrote: »
    EVERYTHING IS [removed].

    He is right, probably have 2000+ hours here from previous series.

    If you really have 2000+ hours into the franchise I am dumbfounded at your seemingly lack of understanding of the fundamentally component that is game balance.

    I am also equally puzzled that you are complaining about elements of the game that we knew well before launch that would or would not, be in the game. Like; Lack of suppression, Final Stand, Squad points, attrition to health and ammo for infantry and vehicles, and the removal of spotting.

    Further more, your confusion over why the same weapon is available to both factions is baffling. Not sure about BF3 or prior titles, but since BF4(with the except of Hardline) weapons have not been faction specific.

    Okay - game balance - every game needs it but it is no secret that bf5 has been balanced in an Incredibly lazy way.

    Instead of taking a look at how ww2 was actually fought and adding some realism...they have made it less realistic to the point that it doesn't matter how you choose to play, in the end you can't really be strategic beyond flanking someone.

    ... i would HONESTLY prefer if it was Harder because the Axis had an advantage in some departments. And then the allies having their own advantages too. It's just sucky because it's like a mirror, the imbalance should be overcome the way it was in real life.

    Right now its like a game of Chess. And that's an insult to Chess.

    I'm afraid, having been disatisfied with the franchise until now, hence I've not been sad enough to research every element of the game before purchase. Suppression was a great part of their last release. I liked being a sniper and getting drilled with an angry MG and having to bail from my camp.

    Same weapons both sides is more dumb than not. When you are playing allied and you want an axis weapon you should have to kill them for it.

    They should just have done a modified remake of BF1942.
  • Loqtrall
    12468 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Lmao anyone who thinks bf5 feels like CoD should actually buckle down and play CoD first. They're nothing alike, not even remotely. Thier greatest similarity is being multiplayer shooters set in first person.

    Seriously, this whole "basing my whole argument on a comparison to a game that's the polar opposite of this game" thing is getting old. People have been using this flimsy argument as a way to criticize BF literally since this forum community has existed, regardless of the BF game being discussed. It's absolute nonsense and has never really amounted to anything.
  • TEKNOCODE
    11616 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Loqtrall wrote: »
    Lmao anyone who thinks bf5 feels like CoD should actually buckle down and play CoD first. They're nothing alike, not even remotely. Thier greatest similarity is being multiplayer shooters set in first person.

    Seriously, this whole "basing my whole argument on a comparison to a game that's the polar opposite of this game" thing is getting old. People have been using this flimsy argument as a way to criticize BF literally since this forum community has existed, regardless of the BF game being discussed. It's absolute nonsense and has never really amounted to anything.

    Haven’t really played bo4 since bfv dropped. I played a couple of rounds a few weeks back. Man, movement felt so jerky compared to bfv.

    That said, I agree. Cod and bf are nothing alike.
  • Loqtrall
    12468 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    macknoob wrote: »
    They should just have done a modified remake of BF1942.

    Lol as if 1942 was actually accurate either.

    I guarantee if they reskinned 1942 and all its content, people would not only have similar complaints as they do now with BF5, but they'll absolutely hate the gameplay of a classic BF title. Most BF fans nowadays haven't played a BF game before BC2 or BF3. Anyone who started thier BF career on console probably didn't start playing BF until BC2.

    You could show them videos of older refractor engine BF titles and they'd probably point out 25 things they dislike about it in the first 45 seconds of footage.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    With 64 players, many of which are Assault, tanks won't have a chance. 32 player Conquest and Operations etc would give them a much better shot. I'm not even a tanker, but i have noticed the OP is right in the "feel" of them. It does feel like vehicles feel on COD. It's like you're driving paper, when back on past BFs, like BC 1 and 2, and BF 3, tanks felt like you were in a tank. There was a "resistance" in the movement, the sound effects, the heavy feel, and it felt solid. Now it feels like COD. No joke there, i think he's absolutely right.

    You are right. It's ridiculous, the tanks actually flip on to their sides. They feel weak, thinly armoured and compared to their previous releases are pretty pathetic.

    What happened to the frostbite destruction? The tanks, especially Axis models should obliterate the environment when rolling through it.... Not flip over when they hit a rock the wrong way. They are supposed to be OP. Instead they can be destroyed Faster than they take to Respawn!
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    These are the kinds of posts from new accounts that I cant take serious especially when they say the game is like COD and why cant it be like BF1.

    I don't mean its 'like COD' because it's clearly different. But BF5 definitely has a definite CODesq feel to it. What is worrying is that I am bored of it after 2 days of giving it a go. Where as I can still pick up bf1, 4 and probably even 3 and play it for hours after what seems endless gameplay.

    They messed up but it's not beyond salvage.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Smes0n wrote: »
    Tiger I was not unstoppable. If you want it to be accurate we need constant engine failure or run out of fuel all the time.

    Exactly! That would be better, as long as their resistance to attack was more accurately portrayed. A piat should immobilise a tiger at best, rendering it in need of repair from the outside; to fix the tracks or whatever.
    It should take a howitzer to actually destroy one.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    How can one be ashamed of something they weren't involved in developing or publishkng or marketing or selling.

    We are paying for it.

    And I don't know about you but I have convinced a lot of people to buy previous releases. I won't be recommending this one in it's current state.
  • warslag
    1606 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha Member
    I think all of these FPS games are similar. Battlefield, Call of Duty and ARMA etc. You're just moving a crosshair around on your screen.

    Each game is characteristically or aesthetically different. But they are still very similar.

    I would like Battlefield to have less game types but I would accept separate game modes of casual and hardcore/simulation. The casual mode could have simplified controls and balancing while the hardcore mode could be complex.

    War Thunder does a similar thing with its Arcade, Realistic and Simulator type battles.

    I think this would be a better compromise that would allow the gameplay devs to make a much more epic game and still have wide appeal to gamers.
  • Loqtrall
    12468 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    macknoob wrote: »
    How can one be ashamed of something they weren't involved in developing or publishkng or marketing or selling.

    We are paying for it.

    And I don't know about you but I have convinced a lot of people to buy previous releases. I won't be recommending this one in it's current state.

    You're not payING for it, you paid for the product already. Whether you bought it before even seeing what it was or researching what it is to see if you'd enjoy it, that's of your own doing. But just because you paid $60 does not entitle you to the game you want. It entitles you to the product you bought.

    It sounds like you're more ashamed of your purchase than the actual game.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Loqtrall wrote: »
    macknoob wrote: »
    They should just have done a modified remake of BF1942.

    Lol as if 1942 was actually accurate either.

    I guarantee if they reskinned 1942 and all its content, people would not only have similar complaints as they do now with BF5, but they'll absolutely hate the gameplay of a classic BF title. Most BF fans nowadays haven't played a BF game before BC2 or BF3. Anyone who started thier BF career on console probably didn't start playing BF until BC2.

    You could show them videos of older refractor engine BF titles and they'd probably point out 25 things they dislike about it in the first 45 seconds of footage.

    All true. But, easy to say a lot without the attempt to criticise.
    Using it as a drawing board at least would have been good.

    Instead it feels like the product of dropping bits of bf1 and call of duty WW2 in a blender and burning the results. As it stands, the visuals are the only thing that have impressed me.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Loqtrall wrote: »
    macknoob wrote: »
    How can one be ashamed of something they weren't involved in developing or publishkng or marketing or selling.

    We are paying for it.

    And I don't know about you but I have convinced a lot of people to buy previous releases. I won't be recommending this one in it's current state.

    You're not payING for it, you paid for the product already. Whether you bought it before even seeing what it was or researching what it is to see if you'd enjoy it, that's of your own doing. But just because you paid $60 does not entitle you to the game you want. It entitles you to the product you bought.

    It sounds like you're more ashamed of your purchase than the actual game.

    Unfortunately You're right. I FEEL like I've wasted money, unlike previous versions.

    And as a result I'll be far more reluctant to purchase another product with their logos on it.

    This exact thing happened with COD, I personally know I'll never buy one of their games again. Reluctant consumers are bad for business.
  • XTS-KingBeef
    1140 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    doesnt seem bad for a 30 dollar game honestly I mean how cold anyone complain at that price point.
  • macknoob
    23 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    doesnt seem bad for a 30 dollar game honestly I mean how cold anyone complain at that price point.

    it's a great price if you enjoy it. just disappointing that it doesn't play as well as the others.
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