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negativity mean something to an extent but how far the community takes it is absurd.
Community: Dice, change the thing!
Dice: Alright, the thing is changed!
Community: REEEEEEE! We've never asked for such change! Revert it back!
Dice: We'll do our best to make it right next time.
Community: REEEEEEE! You're not listening to us! Fools! The worst game ever!
And the cycle goes on and on.
That's why you scope with recon and if you stick to your squad you will get a revive. I don't care where the enemy is to be honest. Half the time I spawn so far away it makes no sense knowing or even knowing what weapon killed me. The surprise adds to the difficulty which keeps people playing longer. Now DICE are making an arcade style shooter.
Getting instantly killed by campers and not knowing what killed you is a big reason why people quit the game ... a Killcam needs to be in a FPS like BF.
I recall people asking for more consistant footsteps so people aren't right behind you and you didn't hear them. They didn't ask for footstep volume to be the same whether you're 3m away or 15m away so it's disorienting.
People want patches to fix things, not break them. The revive counter bug is unacceptable.
Why are we the beta testers after paying full price for the game?
BFV was designed to be closer to real life. And in a real life war, people take cover. With a killcam DICE should just make colorful cartoon style graphics to go along with the killcam as well too.
In real life, everyone would know were a soldier shooting was at, but with the poor sound and insane TTD in BF V that does not work ...
The Killcam is very much needed!
Soldiers need to reposition after a Kill or get killed, just like in real life.
"Fans want what they want how they want it when they want it"
Thats just the case for communitys man
This.
Between the people who whinge nonstop and the devs who actually listen to them it’s really taking the franchise to a strange place. I wish people wouldn’t complain so much, though plenty of complaints are logical and should be voiced. I also wish dice would just say screw the community and make a game the way they want to make a game. Hate it? Too bad
The best part is, so many people will call you a sheep or a fanboy if you happen to utter this sentiment. No matter how long you've been with the franchise or been reading the forums, you're apparently just a nut-hugger if you call the community out for being hypocritical and confused.
Most of the negativity is justified. The game is riddled with bugs, have finished features and bizarre choices. However, what rankles many people is the fact that this has happened so many times in the past that they've lost their patience. It's easy to become jaded and cynical when you keep buying stuff that just doesn't work and is half finished, but repeats the same mistakes made so many times before.
People are angry. They bought a game which was half finished and broken, then watched it go on sale 4 days later. 3 months later and non of the big issues have been tackled, but don't worry, you can drive a tractor next week!
No matter what the devs do there will always be some people that hate the changes and others that like them and the only thing this brings to these forums is more negativity because people are always fighting over the most ridiculous stuff.
Like @Loqtrall said, everybody is so divided on almost every aspect of the game there's just no way for the devs to change anything without making a portion of this 'community' mad. Rare are the people that have the same vision of what Battlefield should be.
We all have different expectations when it comes to Battlefield and I think that's probably normal for a franchise that's been with us for so long.
Instead of trying to enjoy this game for what it is, some people want a return to BF2, others would like something like BFBC, some players want another BF3, BF4 and the rest want something closer to BF1 because these are the games that made them fall in love with Battlefield in the first place or that they loved the most in the entire franchise.
While I don't like every Battlefield game, one thing I respect from DICE is that every once in a while the devs are not afraid to try something new. Sadly, whatever it is, everytime the devs change something they run the risk of pissing off a portion of this community and I think that the overwhelming negativity that we see on these forums is proof of that.
At this point I also think that DICE should just make the games that they want to make and if people are not happy with them they can just leave and go play something else. That's what I did with BF1 and I didn't waste my time complaining about it on these forums, I just accepted the fact that I didn't like certain aspects of the game and moved on and I think that a lot of people here should probably do the same with BFV. Believe me, I speak from experience, you'll be much happier.
Just to be clear, I know that a lot of players come here to voice legitimate concerns but it's usually done in a way that's not really productive and that's a shame.
Call me a fanboy or whatever other excuse you can find to dismiss what I just said but after 7 years on these forum the only thing I have left to say is that, if that's how players are going to react to every change that DICE makes, I honestly don't know if I want to be a part of this community anymore. This place is pathetic!
Your question is flawed, this community is never once the same entity, members come and go, people change their opinions over time and opinions expressed aren't always well worded or misinterpreted on the other end. Long answer short; Never.
I'm quite happy to be on a break, I'd love for this game to appeal to me, so far nothing about it does but I do like the drama.
Also contrarily you get told you're mad becuz bad if you don't like something about the game. I think I'm pretty fair in judging things that I need to work on improving at vs. things I think that should be adjusted and I'm very against ****-talking the devs. I've pulled a 2.24 (or something) KD with a sorta ok spm and I'm always after flags so it bugs me that the "mad becuz bad" automatic response exists.
But anyway I firmly blame the salty communities for a lot of things wrong on gaming as a whole. The devs are having a rough go here and I have plenty of complaints but I'm not gonna raise hell on social media because of them.
I LOVED the beta. I was sad when it was over because I never got frustrated playing it. I liked I had to think a lot more due to ammo shortages. I liked the feeling of danger. But people complained about the whole attrition system and now I think the game is an arcade shooter with a tiny hint of tactical play. I don't really care for it.
Anyway I'm rambling. But I agree that listening to the community probably isn't doing bfv any favors with the meta evolving before you've had a chance to learn it.
Kill cam and sound issues are related to the visibility issues in the game. Instead of addressing that head on, they are beating around the bush tweaking things like making the kill cam zoom and raising the overall sound by 150%...