Videoproof! Ridiculous AA - Watch video after patch

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Holyshogun
128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
edited February 2019


*Don't post a reply without watching the attached Youtube video above!* (press on the picture)

This can't be argued to be anything close to "balanced"

"Brrrrrrr" (2 seconds later) clean skies.
DICE stop going to extremes and actually find a middleground please. Why dont they test their stuff before release.... omg
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  • Indigology
    395 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Right?! How DARE an anti air craft gun be effective against aircraft...what has this world come to.

    It is still very possible to take AAs out with a bomber. I did it a few times in one game.

    People who keep saying "the light air craft stand no chance?!1!1!" Its like no ¯\_(ツ)_/¯...it has barely any armor. 😔
  • Holyshogun
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Yes, within 2 seconds. Just "how", right?
    Watch the video then take a look at your own comment.
  • Holyshogun
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    Indigology wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Right?! How DARE an anti air craft gun be effective against aircraft...what has this world come to.

    It is still very possible to take AAs out with a bomber. I did it a few times in one game.

    People who keep saying "the light air craft stand no chance?!1!1!" Its like no ****...it has barely any armor. 😔

    Obviously you only read the thread title and decided to post without actually watching the video attached, which actually confirms it visually for you. No need to even argue back & forth, simply observe it yourself. RIP at your comment
  • Alrici0
    27 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Yes, within 2 seconds. Just "how", right?
    Watch the video then take a look at your own comment.

    What is cherry-picked footage of bad pilots getting killed by aa supposed to prove?
  • XEN_wunderwaffle
    284 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    looks fine. Scrubfire VA with 8x.303 can kill other planes just as fast, and can also fly around the map at 400mph dropping bombs everywhere while this thing is stuck hiding in its own uncap unless it wants to get farmed by other tanks or Assaults.
  • Holyshogun
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    looks fine. Scrubfire VA with 8x.303 can kill other planes just as fast, and can also fly around the map at 400mph dropping bombs everywhere while this thing is stuck hiding in its own uncap unless it wants to get farmed by other tanks or Assaults.

    Have you even unlocked all 4 stages of the 8x.303 spitfire? It has no aiming reticle in neither 1st or 3rd person view.

    ...lmao... "dropping bombs everywhere"...

    How about you actually give it a try FIRST and then bother to comment?
  • Loki_Deezie
    872 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    With the fix to damage registering for AA its time to adjust the damage drop off for MAA.

    While MAA is very strong I think Stationary AA is just fine.

    This video is a little misleading tho and most those pilots were terrible. Any decent pilot will not be that close to a MAA as I think within 100m the damage seems fine. Its when the plane starts to become 200+m away the damage is not dropping off enough.
  • XEN_wunderwaffle
    284 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    looks fine. Scrubfire VA with 8x.303 can kill other planes just as fast, and can also fly around the map at 400mph dropping bombs everywhere while this thing is stuck hiding in its own uncap unless it wants to get farmed by other tanks or Assaults.

    Have you even unlocked all 4 stages of the 8x.303 spitfire? It has no aiming reticle in neither 1st or 3rd person view.

    ...lmao... "dropping bombs everywhere"...

    How about you actually give it a try FIRST and then bother to comment?

    yes? All left side with Air Radar and 250lb bombs.

    It's the most easymode thing in the game. Was much easier when the AA was useless and literally nothing could kill you.
  • Alrici0
    27 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Yes, within 2 seconds. Just "how", right?
    Watch the video then take a look at your own comment.

    What is cherry-picked footage of bad pilots getting killed by aa supposed to prove?

    Lmao this guy... what maneuver can you possibly do when the time to kill/die is literally 2 seconds?
    Your "cherry picking" argument is invalid and by watching you can clearly see planes trying to dive/ break away, but get demolished within an instant.

    Try again

    Ever heard of the "don't fly too close to the aa maneuver"? You can't expect to get a reactive option for every situation in a shooter that's why gathering information and planing ahead is a critical skill.
  • Bundesfinanzamt
    58 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    According to Alrici0 a single Anti Air shell should have the blast radius of an atomic bomb and instantly wipe out any enemy aircraft on the map. Don't feed the troll
  • Holyshogun
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    With the fix to damage registering for AA its time to adjust the damage drop off for MAA.

    While MAA is very strong I think Stationary AA is just fine.

    This video is a little misleading tho and most those pilots were terrible. Any decent pilot will not be that close to a MAA as I think within 100m the damage seems fine. Its when the plane starts to become 200+m away the damage is not dropping off enough.

    You can arguably avoid stationary AA but...

    MAA is.... *mobile*.

    Thats right, it moves around thus its harder for a pilot to see if they get too close to it's proximity radius, as pilots dont only look for ground targets but also fight other aerial vehicles. A "dogfight" is being caught in a situation where you are forced to loop in order to protect your tail. You can't disengage.

    Also a plane is a large target and highly visible in contrast to the sky. It is the only object up there.

    From a pilot's view its harder to locate targets across the map which blend into the environment and move around. Remember there is NO SPOTTING in this game.

    Velocity: since a plane is traveling at a fast pace, it has a limited window of opportunity when looking at or engaging ground targets. But velocity doesnt matter when an AA spams exploding proximityfuses at supersonic velocities, now does it?

    Compare that with the time to kill a plane of 2 seconds after the patch, and any pilot might just as well let go of their controller/ keyboard.

    Facts
  • Alrici0
    27 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    According to Alrici0 a single Anti Air shell should have the blast radius of an atomic bomb and instantly wipe out any enemy aircraft on the map. Don't feed the troll

    This goes into my collection of representative strawman arguments. Thanks for such a fine example :)
  • XEN_wunderwaffle
    284 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    A weapon designed to take down aircraft being able to do just that.
    How could DICE do this it's so horribly unbalanced :)

    Yes, within 2 seconds. Just "how", right?
    Watch the video then take a look at your own comment.

    What is cherry-picked footage of bad pilots getting killed by aa supposed to prove?

    Lmao this guy... what maneuver can you possibly do when the time to kill/die is literally 2 seconds?
    Your "cherry picking" argument is invalid and by watching you can clearly see planes trying to dive/ break away, but get demolished within an instant.

    Try again

    Ever heard of the "don't fly too close to the aa maneuver"? You can't expect to get a reactive option for every situation in a shooter that's why gathering information and planing ahead is a critical skill.

    Yeah if I run down the middle of the street in front of an MG42 and get mowed down, or drive my little 38t in front of a 6 pounder Valentine or Churchill and get demolished in 2 or 3 shots, it's generally acknowledged that this is my fault for playing poorly

    but bad pilots expect to live through flying within spitting distance of their hard counter as long as they roll or something.

    It's not like the big slow tank with the dome turret is hard to spot from the air. Usually will find it in or around its own base.
  • Loki_Deezie
    872 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Holyshogun wrote: »
    With the fix to damage registering for AA its time to adjust the damage drop off for MAA.

    While MAA is very strong I think Stationary AA is just fine.

    This video is a little misleading tho and most those pilots were terrible. Any decent pilot will not be that close to a MAA as I think within 100m the damage seems fine. Its when the plane starts to become 200+m away the damage is not dropping off enough.

    You can arguably avoid stationary AA but...

    MAA is.... *mobile*.

    Thats right, it moves around thus its harder for a pilot to see if they get too close to it's proximity radius, as pilots dont only look for ground targets but also fight other aerial vehicles. A "dogfight" is being caught in a situation where you are forced to loop in order to protect your tail. You can't disengage.

    Also a plane is a large target and highly visible in contrast to the sky. It is the only object up there.

    From a pilot's view its harder to locate targets across the map which blend into the environment and move around. Remember there is NO SPOTTING in this game.

    Velocity: since a plane is traveling at a fast pace, it has a limited window of opportunity when looking at or engaging ground targets. But velocity doesnt matter when an AA spams exploding proximityfuses at supersonic velocities, now does it?

    Compare that with the time to kill a plane of 2 seconds after the patch, and any pilot might just as well let go of their controller/ keyboard.

    Facts

    This initial problem is there is no dogfighting in this game. Whichever plane gets on the others tail first will always win unless that pilot is a potato. The only way right now to lose a tail is for an AA to make it retreat.

    A fighter plane should NOT be able to take out a MAA unless that driver is unaware and not even looking at it, but that's what it sounds like pilots want and I dont agree with that.

    If a MAA is moving around the map then it should be targeted by ground troops and if the MAA is sitting in spawn then the pilot should not be flying over there to resupply.

    As I said. I think the damage drop off is not enough past 100m but any plane within 100m of that MAA should get rekt and quick.
  • SuperiorByGender
    3239 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited January 2019
    0:48 Lol that was hilarious, Spitfire acrobatics in action.
  • Holyshogun
    128 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Member
    Alrici0 wrote: »
    According to Alrici0 a single Anti Air shell should have the blast radius of an atomic bomb and instantly wipe out any enemy aircraft on the map. Don't feed the troll

    This goes into my collection of representative strawman arguments. Thanks for such a fine example :)

    So much bias. Your battlelog tracker shows on average 90 kills in half the aviable planes and you havent even tried all yet. 0 kills in some of them even.

    Lmao clearly a rookie no wonder you have that standpoint.

    Troll go away & come back after you rank it up and actually have something of value to add
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