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We'll probably be back when they fix the netcode because as some said earlier in the thread... Apex is really crisp!
BFV is not, yet.
Git gud, mate!
It's kinda ironic how a dice dev on Twitter was making excuses for the anthems beta being poor...and another ea studio, respawn drops a game that's mostly polish and free to play.
Respawn set the standard. They have since they made Titanfall. It just wasn't commercially successful but Titanfall 1 and 2 were some of the most polished shooters I've played. It's just I wasn't a fan of the mechs. It's fast paced like cod (the founder of the studio created cod4) and I prefer bf1 more but objectively it was very polished.
It's time for the others to stop making excuses.
Spawning with the basic weapons/vehicles and a decent aim is all you need in BF to have a good time. Apart from being "a shooter" it couldn't be much different.
There is next-to-no 'randomness' in BF however much people complain about explosives and whilst team and squad play is rewarded, you aren't totally doomed to an awful match if your team mates aren't great.
Apex does not know BFV exists. Because Apex is very busy being the most successful game in the world.
BFV does not know Apex exists. Because BFV is dead.
There are people who have experienced clipping into the ground, being able to pick two of the same legend on a squad, being able to shoot enemies while in a downed state, being killed by opening doors or containers in the wrong position, touching out of bounds while deploying and the out of bounds timer stays and kills the whole squad, clipping into the supply ship while reviving teammates on it, one guy even experienced invulnerability and won a match solo by sitting out of bounds and getting 0 damage. I got 3v1d without even being able to defend myself because while I was running away from this squad, I stepped in a small divot in the ground and got stuck and could not jump or move at all, when I died my body got sucked into the divot and through the ground.
That's on top of rubberbanding issues when too much is happening at the beginning of a match (very much so like PUBG when it launched on xbone), and other personal qualms like the long ttk and low magazine size on most guns COMPLETELY contradicting each other.
It's a good game but it's definitely not flawless and clearly has its own issues. I for one am not a fan of waiting longer to get out of some matches than it took me to deploy and die in said match.
Biggest Battlefield threat is the EA/DICE themselves, not this garbage.
That’s just dirty
Its almost shocking how smooth AL is at launch compared to any bf except battlefield1, which had only few minor bugs. Hold on, scratch that, its not AL is so great, its dice's final product is at such low quality level, that everything else feels like top notch diamond of a game.
Personally for me , any good fps will be ticket to bye-bye-battlefield station pronto. metro exodus, new far cry definately will get me to play story /campaign. Online-wise insurgency sandstorm seems to be next big thing for team-based hc experience.
The planes, the vehicles, the gadgets are what opponents of Battlefield argue that makes it chaotic.
Higher TTK = more skill required.
I'm sure it being a f2p br game has significantly more to do with its success than its ttk. It's ttk in relation to most weapons' small mag size is actually often complained about within the vocal community.
difference of opinion. There is no black and white when it comes to TTK although I do prefer the slower TTK.
Some games are built differently.
For some players who just play what is popular, sure BR might be their new FPS fix. I personally dislike BR a lot. From the ridiculous gameplay idea itself, they seem like a bad time investment as after 20/30 minutes you can get killed and end up with zero reward for your effort. I would imagine this semi-skill/gambling nature of these games gets some players hooked up, but it doesn’t appeal as a setting for FPS for me at all. I gave Apex a try, all I remember is that the gunplay feels wooden and slow.
To be fair you don’t get zero reward you get xp/coins to unlock skins etc. Besides which you can lay games for zero reward, ie fun!
Fortnite takes more skill? Ok.