Stop pushing tides of war and smaller maps or modes until the cheating is resolved.

Splinterfuzz · February 7, 2019 5:07PM

There is no question that there is a big problem with cheaters in BFV, you need only spectate multiple games over the course of an hour or less to find this to be true.... So why is EA/DICE pushing tides of war weekly and with small maps and modes during this problem, it only makes the cheating issue even more painful as the impact rises with smaller maps and modes. I really urge that EA/DICE withdraw from this pattern until they resolve the cheating problem, a problem that most people could have resolved two months ago. It's not hard, just put a GM at a desk and have them spectate and investigate suspect players, spectating regularly shows blatant cheating and in some cases multiple cheaters in one squad in the same clan. EA can you honestly tell the community that you can't pay one or more people to do something so simple, I doubt it would cost that much to hire two part timers for two different shifts to act as anti-cheat for an entire region and be successful. At the rate EA is going on this one it wouldn't shock me if someone started a class action or standard civil lawsuit over it.

aRrAyStArTaT0 · February 7, 2019 6:11PM

I just want them to stop pushing smaller maps.
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Battlefield Conquest literally says "Massive all out war" and when the map can be easily traversed from spawn to spawn by foot in under 2 minutes, it's not big enough.
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Currently: Devastation and Fjell are the only ones that don't fit that qualification. But I like Fjell and feel like it doesn't need vehicles so it doesn't have it. But Devastation needs vehicles and barely has it.

-aarp-19Crib · February 7, 2019 6:12PM

They are both becoming sniper farms. I think the spotting scope should be removed.

Cheating? Every player with a death to kill ratio under 10% should be audited. I.E. KD of 50/5.

Dynamyte71 · February 7, 2019 6:38PM

Played Frontline for the first time today and since it’s single objective centric there was nearly everyone in the server just laying on their back in the prone lol.
Not for me...just not for me [smh]

B0ng0_Banger · February 7, 2019 8:01PM

they should really stop pushing game modes in general. most of the game modes play terribly bad in bf5.

Flak88_Achtung · February 7, 2019 8:32PM

Im convinced this game is a trusted client server setup. If it was not a trusted client you could not have tanks killing other tanks with a single shot or planes killing other planes in 1 second. The server has to be checking very little to allow hackers to modify their damage model. Aimbots and wallhacks are one thing. Even strict server side checks can miss those. But missing damage modifiers is something that even a server side untrusted client would reject with no anti cheat at all.

Server trust the client for way too much.

VoltAmps · February 7, 2019 9:19PM

you don have to follow the tides of war, nobody is forcing anything on you, you just like to find a reason to cry about something

TFBisquit · February 7, 2019 10:36PM

I don't like frontlines, but I'll play it, just like breakthrough and squad conquest. Until it's finished that is. Breakthrough was soso, could find myself playing that occasionally, but 8x8 is not enough players in my book, and frontlines is just meh.

RabbidWallaby · February 8, 2019 12:31AM

I'm not allowed to add to this conversation or I'll get banned again.

aRrAyStArTaT0 · February 8, 2019 2:46AM

RabbidWallaby wrote: »

I'm not allowed to add to this conversation or I'll get banned again.

Then why say anything at all?

aRrAyStArTaT0 · February 8, 2019 2:47AM

BooGeeLEE wrote: »

you don have to follow the tides of war, nobody is forcing anything on you, you just like to find a reason to cry about something

Currently it's the only way to unlock certain weapons, some of them are more fun or pretty top tier. So like, you kinda gotta play TOW if you want them. The SMG that was unlocked a few weeks ago? That gun is top tier. It's network packages are pretty bad too. Getting killed via body shots with it in under .2 seconds isn't fun. Doesn't help it has little recoil, a bipod, and somewhat high damage for an SMG.

LOLGotYerTags · February 8, 2019 4:12AM

RabbidWallaby wrote: »

I'm not allowed to add to this conversation or I'll get banned again.

Dont violate the rules and you wont.

This includes discussing moderation ( which you are aware of )

TFBisquit · February 8, 2019 7:27AM

Sprinkles298 wrote: »

BooGeeLEE wrote: »

you don have to follow the tides of war, nobody is forcing anything on you, you just like to find a reason to cry about something

Currently it's the only way to unlock certain weapons, some of them are more fun or pretty top tier. So like, you kinda gotta play TOW if you want them. The SMG that was unlocked a few weeks ago? That gun is top tier. It's network packages are pretty bad too. Getting killed via body shots with it in under .2 seconds isn't fun. Doesn't help it has little recoil, a bipod, and somewhat high damage for an SMG.

Am I the only one that finds this weapon mediocre?

Dynamyte71 · February 8, 2019 10:42AM

I still laugh at how different this game mode makes players play. There are so many laying in the prone around one objective that at times I thought I was walking into a yoga class.

aRrAyStArTaT0 · February 11, 2019 4:25PM

TFBisquit wrote: »

Sprinkles298 wrote: »

BooGeeLEE wrote: »

you don have to follow the tides of war, nobody is forcing anything on you, you just like to find a reason to cry about something

Currently it's the only way to unlock certain weapons, some of them are more fun or pretty top tier. So like, you kinda gotta play TOW if you want them. The SMG that was unlocked a few weeks ago? That gun is top tier. It's network packages are pretty bad too. Getting killed via body shots with it in under .2 seconds isn't fun. Doesn't help it has little recoil, a bipod, and somewhat high damage for an SMG.

Am I the only one that finds this weapon mediocre?

Apparently.
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It's nothing new that every new weapon that gets added has the same TTD issues as the Sten/MP40. But this gun does enough damage that it's a 2 shot headshot, has a bipod, shoots slow enough the recoil is manageable while moving, and has clearer iron sights than most other SMGs.

Dynamyte71 · February 14, 2019 3:12AM

I am going to be honest. I have never really played any other game mode than conquest.
Here is the reason why. Conquest is 64 players spread over multiple yet equally important objectives simultaneously. Cheaters have less of an impact in the outcome of a match than any other game mode...end of story.

BadBudgieSmuggla · February 14, 2019 3:27AM

Splinterfuzz wrote: »

There is no question that there is a big problem with cheaters in BFV, you need only spectate multiple games over the course of an hour or less to find this to be true.... So why is EA/DICE pushing tides of war weekly and with small maps and modes during this problem, it only makes the cheating issue even more painful as the impact rises with smaller maps and modes. I really urge that EA/DICE withdraw from this pattern until they resolve the cheating problem, a problem that most people could have resolved two months ago. It's not hard, just put a GM at a desk and have them spectate and investigate suspect players, spectating regularly shows blatant cheating and in some cases multiple cheaters in one squad in the same clan. EA can you honestly tell the community that you can't pay one or more people to do something so simple, I doubt it would cost that much to hire two part timers for two different shifts to act as anti-cheat for an entire region and be successful. At the rate EA is going on this one it wouldn't shock me if someone started a class action or standard civil lawsuit over it.

Absolutely. The game is the worst i've played for cheating. I avoided PUBG as i read it was mostly cheats then they at least cleaned that up a bit. EA_Dice have failed totally on anti cheat. They are asleep at the wheel and driving this game into a ditch Might as well stop with any further content updates as it will be pointless. The game will be dead in 2 months. Failure after failure. A shame as lots of work gone into the game but the anti cheat dept has let the entire franchise down. Shame on Dice. I won't touch a game with their name on it again.

Splinterfuzz · March 9, 2019 8:22PM

Dynamyte71 wrote: »

I am going to be honest. I have never really played any other game mode than conquest.
Here is the reason why. Conquest is 64 players spread over multiple yet equally important objectives simultaneously. Cheaters have less of an impact in the outcome of a match than any other game mode...end of story.

Pretty much what I'd be doing if I didn't just burn out by the time I got through tides of war, I have very little desire to play the game by the time I'm done with that so I try to just get through it and be done though I'm caring less and less, might just uninstall EA games and origin if nothing changes.

Red_Label_Scotch · March 9, 2019 8:39PM

-aarp-19Crib wrote: »

They are both becoming sniper farms. I think the spotting scope should be removed.

Cheating? Every player with a death to kill ratio under 10% should be audited. I.E. KD of 50/5.

A 10 KDR, on the leaderboards, just for PC, is spots 1 to 132.

Red_Label_Scotch · March 9, 2019 9:27PM

danmitre
Global Community Manager
4 months ago

Anti-cheat efforts is of HIGH priority for us. We want the battlefield to be enjoyable and as fair as possible. With every release and update we improve our anti-cheat systems to mitigate against new and existing cheat programs, bots, etc. Battlefield V will have the latest and greatest, and we will continue to dedicate resources to improving throughout Tides of War.

AND

tiggr
Multiplayer Producer

4 months ago

It means we don't talk about anti cheat details as it tips off the cheat makers. But we are doing quite well on that front, is all I can say.

If the current state of the game is, "doing quite well," I would hate to see your opinion of doing poorly.

Loony · March 9, 2019 10:45PM

I dont care about tides that much, kinda pushed into it more than anything as everyone wants a shiny item at the end with other modes dead. A few conquests but limited choice.
As for the cheaters? its pretty clear when you spec them. 1 admin per a few servers just to spec and act would speed things up, give the community some faith. Probably save them heaps of cash too with all the wasted time spent on reviewing reports.

I get what OP is saying thou, they claim to be spending LOADS on anti cheat yet we dont see anything other than tides updates? huh?
Ok, I think I get it... they are going to wait till the game is dead and players have left.. then go "wait look! we have banned a heap! cmon back..."
Thats nice. yeah, na...

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