It's just a run and gun COD fest now. All the 'role' classes are completely homoginized, the maps are designed for either zerging or sniping.
Assault is all that matters, all the other classes have been just weaker versions since day one.
This game is rubbish, the worst Battlefield I've unfortunately played in my over 3000 online hours with this franchise.
I log in every other day to do my dailies and then quit.
I log in once a week for a session to complete the next tides of war assignments and then quit again.
This game is not fun. It's tedious. It's rewarding to just one style of play. There's no content. There's no variety.
This 'live service' model is a DISASTER
EA and DICE have tried to water down the experience to cater to a COD friendly audience, but like the old tale of the dog on the bridge who looks in the water, all they've done is alienate a large segment of the franchise fan base and lost both bones.
I'm honestly half expecting EA to just can the entire franchise after this dismal launch and put DICE onto some other project.
cant even get Apex to run - white screen - and when i fix that - its very choppy and slow and times out - none of my other AAA games have issues - good job it was free - its crap b4 i have even tried it
The leadership at EA are looking at Apex which probably cost a fraction of what BFV cost to develop and will likely see a much higher return on investment. So if you were EA, would you expand DICEs budget for the next installment or even keep flushing money down the drain with BFV live service? DICE messed up royally with BF1 and BFV. They are destroying this franchise plain and simple. Need to bring sexy back. BFBC3 or BF4 remastered.
Dump the evolution of Frostbite since BF1.
Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Stop unnecessary animations.
Stop the company coins or loot crates.
Stop the stupid assignment and this version of the progression model. It's tedious and takes away from fun factor.
Stop screwing with the control and stick acceleration BS. Everyone turns it off.
Stop the incessant nerf/buff cycles.
Test your damn product and patches.
Bring back custom rental servers.
Ban cheaters for life.
Stop antagonizing your core playerbase.
Stop trying to cater to the fortnite crowd. This is rated MA!
No more historic BF titles. So sick of boring gunplay.
I’m not a big fan of BR games either, but I get the sense a lot of people have no idea how Fortnite is actually played. You don’t just run around mindlessly or have a camp fest. I mean, you know why it’s called FORTnite, right? Because constructing forts is a big part of the game.
I have had a good history lesson (learned about a Russian female sniper squad) and now I'm ready for modern combat again. Like kj, I don't like futuristic shooters, but I also don't like bayonets, horses nor blimps either, they belong in museums and history books. I would like the M-16 back from BF3--that was a good weapon (with ACOG scope), I believe it also had an under-barrel M203 grenade launcher/smoke launcher. I disagree with OP that BF series is dead.. I'm just ready for BF 6 or Bad Company 3.
I saw a video on YouTube that "leaked" BF2020. It is supposedly BFBC3, With a mix of Vietnam and Modern setting, going back to the style of BF3/4. Also, it's been in development since 2017 by DICE LA. I can't verify how legitimate it is though.
I'm ready for a Modern BF as well, I wasn't around for BF4, and while it's still fun, I missed out on a lot of good stuff.
This could bring BF back to life and bring sexy back. No more historic shooters. BF1 and BFV are proof that they don't have the staying power and people get bored with the genre quickly. That "churn rate" says it all.
The leadership at EA are looking at Apex which probably cost a fraction of what BFV cost to develop and will likely see a much higher return on investment. So if you were EA, would you expand DICEs budget for the next installment or even keep flushing money down the drain with BFV live service? DICE messed up royally with BF1 and BFV. They are destroying this franchise plain and simple. Need to bring sexy back. BFBC3 or BF4 remastered.
Dump the evolution of Frostbite since BF1.
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This is what I am concerned about as well. I just don't think that desire is there anymore from EA to give DICE the time to let this game develop for as long as it needs.
Battlefield 5 is a clear example of what a short development timeframe gives you and let's be brutally honest here, EA couldn't care less about game quality.
They just want the quickest and biggest profits possible to pump the share price.
This is the worst performing Battlefield in a long time and if people actually believe that Battlefield is a protected franchise and EA won't can it, they're kidding themselves.
This isn't about video games. This is business. And DICE / Battlefield are just a drain on the EA share price.
This game was clearly rushed to market and it's backfired spectacularly. I think this is a stain on the franchise and if EA decided to just pull the plug, I'm not actually sure I'd be upset by the fact anymore.
I loved my time in Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, 4 and One.
But this game? This game is just trash and just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I can appreciate some people love it and are having a good time, but there's probably just as many who hate it. If the real sales numbers and player retention rates were not being held so tightly to the chest, they'd probably confirm what we all suspect as well.
I HOPE that this is a massive wakeup call for DICE and EA and this franchise can return to it's former glory in Battlefield 6, but I'm honestly not hopeful or even sure DICE will get that opportunity after this release.
Apex Legends is a mild diversion. It's repetitive like all BR games. BFV will be fine, still enjoying it a lot despite the many problems.
Cap flag insta death, cap flag insta death, cap flag insta death!
Repetitive like that you mean?
Let me know when BR games will offer something more then dm/tdm variation with 1 life and ultra campfest. Oh and when they will have 8+ maps.
Playing one map with no goal except stay alive is fun for 1-2 afternoons, i expect from games bit more.....
Yeah odd that because I expect more from games too!
Something like reasonable netcode and and med kits not falling through the floor.
Even fortnite has a more tactical edge compared to battlefield v
''Even fortnite has a more tactical edge compared to battlefield v''ROFL Nooo it does not lol that is the most stupid comment i have seen yet.People just don`t get it yet these maps are designed in a way the give everyone a chance to flank the enemy for a change instead of running straight into a meat grinder like op metro,all of the blueberries that are complaining just have not grasped this yet.They are stuck in bad habbits from COD and previous battlefield and need to learn to adapt they`re playstyle instead of crying about being killed by an op weapon or someone who simply outplayed them.I think the map design in battlefield v is genius Bravo Dice.I say quit crying and actually learn the games mechanics and learn to change playstyle before crying.
[quote="Astr0damus;c-1472767"'m ready for a Modern BF as well, I wasn't around for BF4, and while it's still fun, I missed out on a lot of good stuff.
Still plenty of servers on BF4. I play every day
I play often, it's just most servers are running Siege, Golmud, Locker or a few select maps. So there are a lot of maps I won't be able to play on, and a bunch of other stuff I wasn't around for.
BFV needs to be Apexed. And I'm not talking about BR. I'm talking about the polish, the visual clarity, the fun, the focus, the simplicity, the UI, simple to play yet hard to master, etc. IT's the opposite of BFV. IT's a quality product day one and fun.
And I'm not a BR fan but this one is fun. I'm a BF fan and and hopefully we'll see a better BF6 because some of us immediately recognized the shoddy product BFV was in the Alpha and voted with their wallet. If you keep buying their sub-standard product then they'll keep delivering it. They won't change otherwise.
And to think that Apex is free !?!??!?! IT just blows my mind away. Anyway back to retirement.
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Cap flag insta death, cap flag insta death, cap flag insta death!
Repetitive like that you mean?
Let me know when BR games will offer something more then dm/tdm variation with 1 life and ultra campfest. Oh and when they will have 8+ maps.
Playing one map with no goal except stay alive is fun for 1-2 afternoons, i expect from games bit more.....
It's just a run and gun COD fest now. All the 'role' classes are completely homoginized, the maps are designed for either zerging or sniping.
Assault is all that matters, all the other classes have been just weaker versions since day one.
This game is rubbish, the worst Battlefield I've unfortunately played in my over 3000 online hours with this franchise.
I log in every other day to do my dailies and then quit.
I log in once a week for a session to complete the next tides of war assignments and then quit again.
This game is not fun. It's tedious. It's rewarding to just one style of play. There's no content. There's no variety.
This 'live service' model is a DISASTER
EA and DICE have tried to water down the experience to cater to a COD friendly audience, but like the old tale of the dog on the bridge who looks in the water, all they've done is alienate a large segment of the franchise fan base and lost both bones.
I'm honestly half expecting EA to just can the entire franchise after this dismal launch and put DICE onto some other project.
But in essence isn't that the quintessential FPS game?.
What's the alternative?
Cap flag - Morris dance - cap flag - cup of tea.
Dying is part of it..we aren't playing tiddlywinks.
The only thing dead that I can see is the logic behind all these multiple "the game is dying/dead/trash" threads.
Its almost at the level of Monty Pythons parrot sketch.
Its not dead.. Its a Scandinavian game and its pining for the fjord's!!!!
Dump the evolution of Frostbite since BF1.
Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Stop unnecessary animations.
Stop the company coins or loot crates.
Stop the stupid assignment and this version of the progression model. It's tedious and takes away from fun factor.
Stop screwing with the control and stick acceleration BS. Everyone turns it off.
Stop the incessant nerf/buff cycles.
Test your damn product and patches.
Bring back custom rental servers.
Ban cheaters for life.
Stop antagonizing your core playerbase.
Stop trying to cater to the fortnite crowd. This is rated MA!
No more historic BF titles. So sick of boring gunplay.
So sick of ur shoddy UI and programming.
This could bring BF back to life and bring sexy back. No more historic shooters. BF1 and BFV are proof that they don't have the staying power and people get bored with the genre quickly. That "churn rate" says it all.
This is what I am concerned about as well. I just don't think that desire is there anymore from EA to give DICE the time to let this game develop for as long as it needs.
Battlefield 5 is a clear example of what a short development timeframe gives you and let's be brutally honest here, EA couldn't care less about game quality.
They just want the quickest and biggest profits possible to pump the share price.
This is the worst performing Battlefield in a long time and if people actually believe that Battlefield is a protected franchise and EA won't can it, they're kidding themselves.
This isn't about video games. This is business. And DICE / Battlefield are just a drain on the EA share price.
This game was clearly rushed to market and it's backfired spectacularly. I think this is a stain on the franchise and if EA decided to just pull the plug, I'm not actually sure I'd be upset by the fact anymore.
I loved my time in Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, 4 and One.
But this game? This game is just trash and just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I can appreciate some people love it and are having a good time, but there's probably just as many who hate it. If the real sales numbers and player retention rates were not being held so tightly to the chest, they'd probably confirm what we all suspect as well.
I HOPE that this is a massive wakeup call for DICE and EA and this franchise can return to it's former glory in Battlefield 6, but I'm honestly not hopeful or even sure DICE will get that opportunity after this release.
Wait and see.
There are varying game modes in BFV, some of them are not fun but at least there is variety.
I'd vary your play style if that's what happening for you, try Recon with flare gun, Support MMG camper or Sqaud Conquest as a medic!
Yeah odd that because I expect more from games too!
Something like reasonable netcode and and med kits not falling through the floor.
Even fortnite has a more tactical edge compared to battlefield v
''Even fortnite has a more tactical edge compared to battlefield v''ROFL Nooo it does not lol that is the most stupid comment i have seen yet.People just don`t get it yet these maps are designed in a way the give everyone a chance to flank the enemy for a change instead of running straight into a meat grinder like op metro,all of the blueberries that are complaining just have not grasped this yet.They are stuck in bad habbits from COD and previous battlefield and need to learn to adapt they`re playstyle instead of crying about being killed by an op weapon or someone who simply outplayed them.I think the map design in battlefield v is genius Bravo Dice.I say quit crying and actually learn the games mechanics and learn to change playstyle before crying.
I play often, it's just most servers are running Siege, Golmud, Locker or a few select maps. So there are a lot of maps I won't be able to play on, and a bunch of other stuff I wasn't around for.
Apex is developed by Respawn.
BFV is developed by DICE.
Why is EA going to abandon BFV for Apex? They are made by different studios, how are they not going to sustain both?
And I'm not a BR fan but this one is fun. I'm a BF fan and and hopefully we'll see a better BF6 because some of us immediately recognized the shoddy product BFV was in the Alpha and voted with their wallet. If you keep buying their sub-standard product then they'll keep delivering it. They won't change otherwise.
And to think that Apex is free !?!??!?! IT just blows my mind away. Anyway back to retirement.