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No premium which they also whined about has dulled the game...
But hey, as long as the EA shills are happy, I guess..
I remember JackFrags getting involved with some of the DayZ cheating that FrankieonPCin1080p did, although I think Jack may have been unaware of Frankie's nonsense. In fact, quite a few British gaming YouTubers were involved with Frankie's scandals back in the day.
Indeed, it was quite strange that a lot of prominent BF YouTubers of today joined - almost completely and simultaneously - during the start of BF3's lifecycle. It's obvious that BF3 was when the franchise officially became mainstream, especially when it started to compete with Modern Warfare 3 ... people used to give MW3 a 0/10 score on Metacritic, whilst mentioning that BF3 was a much 'better' game. People like Westie, JackFrags and XFactor didn't have anything to do with the franchise until BF3 came along. At least LevelCap started with BF2 ... I think.
One can still make the argument that joining a franchise 'later' isn't necessarily a bad thing. TheRussianBadger only joined the franchise with BC1 (and he did pretty well, until he ended up losing his mind over BF4). We even got people like DannyonPC, and even Birgirpall, who made some of the best BF3 videos ever. We even had some decent smaller sised channels (like AKA-ART, FabianChills, etc) join BF after BF4, BFH and BF1.
Oh, the "mah bullets are random" dude that had zero understanding of how spread worked in BF1? What a clown.
Nice response. Mine would have been a lot more crude because his rant is really dumb. Especially not having a clue how games are developed.
Look, I know these things, and my posts aren’t ment as defending YTs in general or JackFrags in particular. But there is a tendency to jump from disagreement/dislike to just outright accusing YTs of being bought, without evidence.
Pointing out as the OP did, that they’re unlikely to disclaim any such dishonesty is not an argument at all. Nor for that matter is him being “...very stuck up his own bum”, even if you have a point ;-)
There’s also a difference between censoring yourself and being bought to say specific things. JackFrags’s video referred to by the OP is titled “Battlefield hangs in the balance”, not quite a big sell for would-be buyers of BFV.
But as I said, I’m not here defending anyone. I just wish there would be some levelheadedness and fairness in these discussions. Especially considering that the big YTs actually has been rather critical of BFV.
Let me start of by saying, the stuck up his own bum, had no bearing on my argument, that was just a sidenote 😅
I think it comes down, to what you and I define as being bought.
Do I think they are being paid cash, to say specific things, no, not at all.
Do I think they are less harsh in their judgment of BF V because they are gamechangers and because they do not want to loose said benefits, yes, yes I do.
The title battlefield hangs in a thread, would be way worse had he not been a gamechanger, and it wouldmhave come way earlier.
Do I think that is being bought, yes in a sense, however, I do agree, that in a litteral sense, this is not the case.
The second thing they need are dedicated servers so they can set up things to create their content. That's where Dice should cater their needs.
Gadgets and vehicles are just cool in their eyes when it suits them. In BF1 jack was all over the place when he 'killed the server' with the Ilja Bomber but next video crying about things killing him he can't see.
I stopped watching these youtubers almost completely. Nicca and a few being the exception.
Honestly the new Vehicles are Just different Versions of already existing ones.
Same goes for the guns. Lots of remastered BF1 guns.
But its "free" content. Lol
Actually dice is showing the middle Finger to the Community and No one realize it.
Same about the "free" Content Like Combined Arms, Firestorm and some other stuff. People forgot probably that this stuff was announced as Release Features.
End of March will be the "real" Release of BFV.
Totally agree with you. JF and other paid EA youtubers are the same people that were making videos prelaunch and hyping this game up.
I remember phrases as: This might be the best BF game ever made. When they finally realised people are not buying their or EA/Dice crap of a game they went silent and started posting less videos on BF.
All of sudden 3-4 months after launch the biggest BF youtubers play BF once a week mostly.
Dont trust a word of these gamechangers.
Here's what i sincerely don't understand.
If the 'game engine" is rather bad, how can you decide to keep it going for many years? I would think it needs to be scrapped, and likely will IF there is another game next gen. I did see this video on xbox, and knew there would be a reaction here, but unless i'm missing something (and probably am), i don't understand how his opinion makes any sense under the circumstances. It does seem however, whatever info he received there, didn't make him happy.
It’s a conflict of interest. Just the way politicians receive gifts,trips ect. from the big businesses to sway their votes on policy that effects them.
For me they are “literally” bought. We would be foolish to think otherwise knowing what we know.
Do we really think for one second with the amount of views guys like Jackfrags and Westie get that EA/Dice just innocently want only their input on gameplay?
If any of these guys are overly critical, they won’t be on the plane next time, which may affect the financial situation of the Youtuber in question negatively (less new content = less viewers = less advertising income, I presume)
No, they are not bought by EA in the traditional sense, but surely anyone can see they are not unbiased either.
They're for the lack of a better word...Lobbyists.
But they're not making any money now. That's likely why they're making a hey. Jacks viewers are half what they were on BF1. Westie is in the duldrums, as is Levelcap. The only time they seem to get viewers, is Apex.
So, if they see they're at risk of having to find meaningful jobs, and not play games all day, you'll start to see the resistance grow.
My view, is EA/DICE should fly US, into these events. Their playerbase, not lobbyists opportunists who don't give a wit about the game, but soley want to make money. It's likely, a much better product in the end, than that of the views of out of touch you tubers.
If they need to switch engines to something more reliable and malleable in order to turn the ship around then do it even if it means losing destruction. If they have to contract the franchise out to Nintendo in order to get it polished and formed into a fun game at 60fps then do it.
They have a template and all the ideas they need for the next great battlefield game. It’s called Battlefield 2. It’s their property, its all there, but they REFUSE to make a real BF game like BF2 because.... edgelords? I don’t know, they’re sitting on a gold mine while claiming to be broke.