Nerf Mosquito FB MKVI and Nerf Ju-88 C

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  • Stahlmach
    1156 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    stiny1838 wrote: »
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    NLBartmaN wrote: »
    I have the ju-88C on rank 4 and tried every specialisation tree.
    The plane is pure trash and has nothing usefull enough to choose it above the ju-88A or a Stuka.
    You won't see this plane in the game once everyone has it rank 4.
    So the British has better fighter and bomber plane?

    yes the British have better planes (fighters) but Germans have better tanks just as it was irl the only thing is there is not as many ways to counter the planes

    The germans have the better Tanks ?! Are we playing the same Game ?
    Every british Tank is superior to its german Counterpart. The Staghound wrecks a Tiger Tank with ease while the Valentine with 6 Pounder Gun and Autoreload dominates the Battlefield. And while the Stug IV is just useless, the Archer is totally deadly with 40!!!!! rounds of Ammo and despite showing the enemy its rear the whole time, not suffering any penalty from that.
    A WW2 Game still set in the year 1940 and the weakest Tank is the Tiger tank. What a pathetic Joke.....
  • grrlpurple
    791 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Instead of nerfing these, how about buffing the fighters?
  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 17
    grrlpurple wrote: »
    Instead of nerfing these, how about buffing the fighters?
    The fighters need zero buffs at least the popular ones.
    They destroy any other plane and can even kill infantry and SAA operators outright.
  • MBT_Layzan
    1390 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Woodlbrad wrote: »
    Yep these are way to overpowered now vs ground they can 1 shot any tank. AA being complete garbage makes it even worse they can take way to much dmg. The Dev's have no clue what they are doing balance wise tanks are in a horrible place now. Its not even enjoyable tanking anymore infantry peeking with rockets taking absurd amounts of dmg and now planes nuking you into oblivion its even worse on panzerstorm these should be squad reinforcements call ins. We can have one shot bombers but we can't have mortars its time to face the truth battlefield is no longer a good franchise it died after 5 dice only makes flops now leave it to ea to butcher another loved franchise.

    I agree.
  • dinobass
    147 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    The new planes make Fjell even more miserable to play, especially if you're on the German side and those 4000 lb bombs are dropping continuously...
  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    dinobass wrote: »
    The new planes make Fjell even more miserable to play, especially if you're on the German side and those 4000 lb bombs are dropping continuously...
    I doubt the German plane is having any effect on the british team on that map. It is just easy kills for the British fighters and mosquitoes.
  • MBT_Layzan
    1390 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    dinobass wrote: »
    The new planes make Fjell even more miserable to play, especially if you're on the German side and those 4000 lb bombs are dropping continuously...

    It's cool man, fighters will save you.
  • SirBobdk
    3861 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 18
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
  • SirBobdk
    3861 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
  • SirBobdk
    3861 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 18
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
  • xKusagamix
    875 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
    Hard to do it if your selfish teammate pick all the planes slot with bomber, then both side just trying to bomb the crap out of each other.
  • SirBobdk
    3861 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 18
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
    Hard to do it if your selfish teammate pick all the planes slot with bomber, then both side just trying to bomb the crap out of each other.
    Agree and this shouldn't be an option.
    The game should have 3 fixed slots imo. 1 x fighter, 1x attack plane. 1 x Bomber.
    You can do many ways, but a team should only have access to ONE bomber.
  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 18
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
    Hard to do it if your selfish teammate pick all the planes slot with bomber, then both side just trying to bomb the crap out of each other.
    Agree and this shouldn't be an option.
    The game should have 3 fixed slots imo. 1 x fighter, 1x attack plane. 1 x Bomber.
    You can do many ways, but a team should only have access to ONE bomber.
    Sure if they scrap the leveling grind for the planes/tanks
    The most range inducing thing in the game for me right now is to be trying to level a plane amidst all the adversity of competing with others for plane slots, having to deal with random SAA camping and both fighters and cannon bombers trying to eat me from behind or the front.
    The amount of times I fantasized of punching others through the screen this week was insane
  • xKusagamix
    875 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
    Hard to do it if your selfish teammate pick all the planes slot with bomber, then both side just trying to bomb the crap out of each other.
    Agree and this shouldn't be an option.
    The game should have 3 fixed slots imo. 1 x fighter, 1x attack plane. 1 x Bomber.
    You can do many ways, but a team should only have access to ONE bomber.
    Sure if they scrap the leveling grind for the planes/tanks
    The most range inducing thing in the game for me right now is to be trying to level a plane amidst all the adversity of competing with others for plane slots, having to deal with random SAA camping and both fighters and cannon bombers trying to eat me from behind or the front.
    The amount of times I fantasized of punching others through the screen this week was insane
    It's one of things that confused me with Dice's dicision.

    Instead of grinding each aimsight until you reach the next, then you'll have time to enjoy each, it can also make gun assignment more meaningful, like reach 50 kills with each aimsight to unlock the last Mastery Weapon Assignment.

    Grinding for vehicles upgrade is just dumb, because most of the time you'll be shot down by people with better upgrade. And unlike guns and classes, vehicles are not unlimited.
  • SirBobdk
    3861 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    edited March 18
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    The amount of times I fantasized of punching others through the screen this week was insane
    Hehe feel your pain m8. Been there :smile:
    The whole upgrade system should have been made in a total different way imo.
    It seems to have been created for the sake of the system and not for the game.
  • MBT_Layzan
    1390 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    xKusagamix wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    SirBobdk wrote: »
    @Hawxxeye wrote
    check the part after 9 sec
    Strange. I don't have that at all with the 4x20 mm but I do have the same with the mg
    At best the 4x20mm turn the plane into a slow moving spitfire VA with low velocity shots
    It slow but it kills planes so fast and don't overhead. Shoot down 19 planes on fjeld in a Bomber lol :smile:
    And infantry also dies faster than the VA. You can starfe kill 2-4.
    My enemies struggle a lot more it seems and the AA guns keep banging on me,This gun has too much drop to hit an AA from far away so only a vertical dive works
    True and the visual clutter from the AA makes it hard to aim. The Ju88c is fun when the British choose bombers, otherwise the Me109 will still be my first choice.
    The advantage of ju88c is that you do not have to fly to supply stations all the time and if you have 2 other in the plane then the heavy MG makes a difference in defense.
    The mosquito cannon makes the defense irrelevant (x_x)
    Haha true, but you don't defend against the Mosquito. You dogfight it.
    Hard to do it if your selfish teammate pick all the planes slot with bomber, then both side just trying to bomb the crap out of each other.
    Agree and this shouldn't be an option.
    The game should have 3 fixed slots imo. 1 x fighter, 1x attack plane. 1 x Bomber.
    You can do many ways, but a team should only have access to ONE bomber.
    Sure if they scrap the leveling grind for the planes/tanks
    The most range inducing thing in the game for me right now is to be trying to level a plane amidst all the adversity of competing with others for plane slots, having to deal with random SAA camping and both fighters and cannon bombers trying to eat me from behind or the front.
    The amount of times I fantasized of punching others through the screen this week was insane
    It's one of things that confused me with Dice's dicision.

    Instead of grinding each aimsight until you reach the next, then you'll have time to enjoy each, it can also make gun assignment more meaningful, like reach 50 kills with each aimsight to unlock the last Mastery Weapon Assignment.

    Grinding for vehicles upgrade is just dumb, because most of the time you'll be shot down by people with better upgrade. And unlike guns and classes, vehicles are not unlimited.

    Indeed, it takes seconds and is brain dead easy for a bomber to wipe out a tank that has zero chance. And to boot, your then hit with the rubbish broken vehicle spawn lol ---> system that takes ages for a tank to spawn. When it does, even if you are able to see them spawn and get there quick, it can still bug out and give it to other players, or just not allow anyone to spawn in it.

    It's just a recipe for frustration not enjoyment.
  • hici2033
    3 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    PackersDK said:
    It’s been one of my pet peeves since BF1; Dices apparent inability to realize that what might work fine in one gamemode can be gamebreaking in another.

    I’m not really a fan of CQ, so I’ve been playing Ops in BF1 and Breakthrough in BFV. These are gamemodes with 1 or 2 flag sectors. The 4000 lbs Mosquito bomb is an absolute joke in these modes! How Dice can’t foresee something like this is beyond me.

    It’s a certain 3-5 kills per bomb dropped, only slightly less than the JB2 bomb.

    This reminds me of the idiocy that was the heavy bomber in BF1. Yes, there were counters, it could be shot down. But even if the pilot only managed 1 or 2 attacks he could do very, very well (and probably have fun) just respawning in the plane and go to town repeatedly.

    here is your nerf:

    happy now? Now there is 0% chance of killing infantry with the 4000lb bomb. Dice could've just removed it completely at this point

  • Hawxxeye
    5024 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    hici2033 said:
    PackersDK said:
    It’s been one of my pet peeves since BF1; Dices apparent inability to realize that what might work fine in one gamemode can be gamebreaking in another.

    I’m not really a fan of CQ, so I’ve been playing Ops in BF1 and Breakthrough in BFV. These are gamemodes with 1 or 2 flag sectors. The 4000 lbs Mosquito bomb is an absolute joke in these modes! How Dice can’t foresee something like this is beyond me.

    It’s a certain 3-5 kills per bomb dropped, only slightly less than the JB2 bomb.

    This reminds me of the idiocy that was the heavy bomber in BF1. Yes, there were counters, it could be shot down. But even if the pilot only managed 1 or 2 attacks he could do very, very well (and probably have fun) just respawning in the plane and go to town repeatedly.

    here is your nerf:

    happy now? Now there is 0% chance of killing infantry with the 4000lb bomb. Dice could've just removed it completely at this point

    Wtf, I knew it was bad, but this is incredible
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