What's the point of using MP28 over Thompson?

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YourLocalPlumber
2387 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
edited April 9
I've tried using all of the medic weapons to get a feel for all of them, and I came to the conclusion that MP28 is an obsolete gun. M1928A2 is my 2nd most used gun in BF5 and it's simply better than MP28 in every aspect. They both have 50 round mag, MP28 shoots slower and got much higher recoil.

 I can easily control M1928 when ADS, not the case with MP28. You'd think that it should be a very easy to control gun since it fires smaller round at a slower rate than M1928, but no. It kicks all over the place giving you no chance at medium range.

One could argue that MP28 got a better hipfire, but from expierence I can safely say that the difference is so small that it doesn't matter one bit because M1928A2 got higher ROF to compensate for that.


There are a few more examples of one gun being better in every aspect compared to other guns, but this one stands out the most. I think devs must do something about it. Maybe reduce recoil significantly and nerf hipfire to make it better at medium range than M1928 but worse at close range.

Comments

  • A_al_K_pacino_A
    268 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    In my case its because I bought the chrome set with CC's so I'm stuck with it.
  • VOLBANKER
    640 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Thompson has horrible scopes, MP28 is better in that regard.
    I personally also find that MP28 is much easier to control than Thompson, and that it’s far better at hipfiring.
    Just the other day I tried switching to Thompson again from MP28, but quickly switched back for those reasons.
    It’s strange you and I can have so different experiences with the two guns :smile:
  • Ploodovic
    1529 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    MP28 has the Arras skin from BF1, though, so it wins by default ;)
  • TEKNOCODE
    10708 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    A_al_K_pacino_A said:
    In my case its because I bought the chrome set with CC's so I'm stuck with it.

    Ah the good old sunk cost fallacy... I do not think there is any human who is immune to it.

    Raises hand in immunity ✋🏻

    I was using the mp28 until I unlocked the Thompson. Lol
  • Cropulus
    193 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I just cant get used to the Thompson, but I traded my dear old MP28 for the Suomi. I still get better KPM with the MP28 though, not a huge difference, but still. 
  • Hawxxeye
    4360 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    The MP28 is the only SMG that lets you take both the 50 round magazine specialization and both hipfire upgrades. It's a good choice for aggressive play on tight maps where you rarely need to ADS.

    I had forgoten about that.
    Good point
  • GrizzGolf
    801 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    MP28 isn't that bad 
  • BFB-LeCharybdis
    571 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1 Member
    All about the Arras skin baby. In fashionfield V a good dress sense is deadlier than bullets
  • CaptHotah
    997 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Why would anyone use anything other than the zk383?
  • Dr_X2345
    757 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Idk - stats wise it might not be a better gun, but I like the way it feels (idk if that sounds stupid or not - but when I used it for a bit to get it fully Mint it felt very satisfying. Might have been that it was the first faster firing SMG I really used much). It's got a Nydar sight, which is nice - better than the Reflex, at least for SMGs IMO. I guess the specs might make it slightly better for aggression or something?
  • VincentNZ
    1954 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    There is none really. On paper it is a really nice weapon, especially for close rang killing potential, since it gets 50 rounds and both hipfire stats, while also having a ROF that is above average. However, even when you choose the hybrid spec tree with horizontal recoil reduction you have a weapon that is only usable from the hip thanks to a poor recoil pattern. It is a really horrible weapon to use in ADS.
    Here is something that I really would like to see a visual representation of.
  • thebossman2202
    357 postsMember, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye wrote: »
    A_al_K_pacino_A said:
    In my case its because I bought the chrome set with CC's so I'm stuck with it.

    Ah the good old sunk cost fallacy... I do not think there is any human who is immune to it.

    Hey I learned that in economics! Sunk costs is a real pain.
  • Dr_X2345
    757 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    VincentNZ said:
    There is none really. On paper it is a really nice weapon, especially for close rang killing potential, since it gets 50 rounds and both hipfire stats, while also having a ROF that is above average. However, even when you choose the hybrid spec tree with horizontal recoil reduction you have a weapon that is only usable from the hip thanks to a poor recoil pattern. It is a really horrible weapon to use in ADS.
    Here is something that I really would like to see a visual representation of.
    Weirdly enough I found that it was actually quite usable at mid range? Burst fire is king with SMGs at mid range, and this one is no exception. That said, I haven't used it for a while so I can't remember exactly, and it does have a bit of an odd strong diagonal recoil pattern, but if you can control this and burst fire it's pretty nice.
  • VincentNZ
    1954 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Dr_X2345 said:
    VincentNZ said:
    There is none really. On paper it is a really nice weapon, especially for close rang killing potential, since it gets 50 rounds and both hipfire stats, while also having a ROF that is above average. However, even when you choose the hybrid spec tree with horizontal recoil reduction you have a weapon that is only usable from the hip thanks to a poor recoil pattern. It is a really horrible weapon to use in ADS.
    Here is something that I really would like to see a visual representation of.
    Weirdly enough I found that it was actually quite usable at mid range? Burst fire is king with SMGs at mid range, and this one is no exception. That said, I haven't used it for a while so I can't remember exactly, and it does have a bit of an odd strong diagonal recoil pattern, but if you can control this and burst fire it's pretty nice.

    We have no way to determine any of this, though. This is the problem. The pattern is a completely obscure mechanic, with no visual representation at all. And we have traditional recoil as well as spread as recoil, the whole "learnable recoil"-talk is nonsense. It is just so inconsistent and could tendencially vary greatly form player to player, too. You can not calculate with it. From the hip the MP28 is a beast, this is the only common ground every player can have here. :D
  • dayglowfroggy
    308 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    No reason to use the mp28 I recently fully specialised it but can't find anything it does better than any other gun.

    You would think it should be slightly more accurate at range than Thompson and suami at the cost of lower rate of fire but it's not.

    I think it should have been a halfway house between suami and mp40 but no its not that either.

    I like the suami best then the Thompson but the Thompson has horrible sights so I recently gave the zk383 another chance with the high rate of fire you can use it like a proper smg ie suami but you have to remember to use the bipod to get any range.

    I don't like any of the slow firing smg 's they just feel annoying keep losing to support and assault unless they don't know you are there.

    So my vote goes suami for in the face aggressive play then zk383 for the same but if you need a bit more range.
  • ASaltyAlpaca
    31 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    I’d say it just comes with preferences, normally I use the MP 28 cause I just like how it handles for me. Thompson and the Suomi KP is superior when playing aggressively but I’m not sure where to place the 28, maybe in the middle it’s good for defense but ok for offense.

    Either way I just use it cause I like it. Like I said preference. Just wish that the medics got some of the SLR the assaults have, now that would be fun in my opinion
  • y_j_es_i
    959 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    I prefer it to the Tommy for maps with more close-medium than close range engagements. I find the ADS recoil more reliable than the Tommy’s and it’s superior hipfire accuracy makes it better suited to longer engagements.
    For CQC and close range stuff tho, I’ll take my Suomi
  • bran1986
    5301 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    There really isn't one to be honest. If you want to run it like a BF1 smg and just hip fire everywhere, it is fine. If you want to ADS and hit someone past 10 meters, it is trash due to that God awful horizontal recoil pattern.
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