They must realize by now that they have lost all credibility as a AAA studio.
Nothing they can do from now on will help, it's too late. Even indie teams have more professionalism. I for one will not forget how this game has been dealt will - the trust is gone
Moan moan moan cynical comment cynical comment cynical comment. This community is trash
I KNEW dice actually posted in these forums? Hey while you’re here, can we have more tiny infantry maps and Battle Royals and lootboxes and Fortnite skins?? /s
Admittedly, I am sitting BF5 out. I saw the direction BF was going with BF1 and will wait until Dice makes a better game. BF5 is not worth my frustration.
Edit: Just found out that they made tankers at least optional as male and apparently has customisation too, so a glimmer of understanding for the future. And I really want BF back.
Players they’ll never get back. Lol.
Players who came back after the BF4 disaster.
After hardline.
After BF1 went historical.
Yeah. BF6 drops and 95% of the “I’m done forever” crowd will be back.
Yes. BF4 has a buggy start but it recovered with future patches and excellent DLCs.
Hardline was a big departure from the BF theme but the game mechanics worked far better than this game. It was different but it owned it and did it well.
BF1 was a big change in terms of time to kill but it worked and it had a way better map design and atmosphere...
Plus...it felt like with every patch, BF1, Hardline and 4 all got better (maps, weapon balancing, etc).
BFV on the other hand continues to be a huge mess with decisions that don’t just affect the game but erode the trust of casual and hardcore fans - taking away base game modes, patch delays and patches that make break the game, pre-order bonuses that aren’t actually worth it, attacking fans prior to the launch, messing up the road map announcements, and on and on...
I’m not so sure those people will come back. I’m definitely not pre-ordering the next BF title after everything that has unfolded with BFV...
Updated the game and said why not let’s try it. Immediately see everyone in the lobby has 90+ ping. Find another lobby, same thing. Psh, unreal. Dice, you absolutely 100% suck. Modern Warfare can’t come soon enough.
All I can add to this is that I'm done with the franchise and especially the developers, and much like with other extremely poor studios in the past I will keep track of where their employees jump ship to and avoid their games too.
If anyone cares, I played from 1942-BF3, then got back in with BF1 late in its life. Turns out it was only briefly, BFV is about the worst online game experience I've had purely thanks to the devs.
DICE could have easily put together the game as it sits today in the time since its release. That's a bewilderingly poor state for the game to be in nearly a year post-release, given its "live service" advertising. We never see any work or the result of any appreciable work, so I can only assume none is going on to show.
I am reminded strongly of Elite Dangerous. For years, Frontier lied to us and claimed the big or good updates were right around the corner. Every single one was a complete failure, then they just up & cancelled several major ones along with the future of the game they advertised in order to sell copies in the first place.
They can fix every bug and it will still be bad by design. Hardcore-lite, competitive-lite, infantry-biased, frustrating, bad UI, bad RSP (I almost guarantee, given BF1), painful progression, pointless customisation, etc, etc.
"Even if the next Battlefield looks like it's going to be a smash hit"..... wait what??? Next BF will be more of the same gamepay as a service BS. I'm not buying the new BF til its out for at least 3 month, and neither should you.
Same here. Have not really played nuch since late june and not at all since 10/8 but desided to give it a try.
Surprised at how much worse it is running. Usually I've had some lag and stuttering as infantry, but never as a pilot.
Now, flying is terrible too. My game ran perfect 5 pathes ago, but since then it's only gotten worse.
Performance got worse after the patch here too. Never had that before. Both in latency and FPS. It also started to crash for the first time. Always after 3-4 rounds.
I pre-ordered BF5, did play the beta and i still play Battlefield 5 even with the bugs because i enjoy the game. the game has alot of bugs sure, but it can still be an enjoyable game time to time if you end up in the right servers (cause netcode seems fine on some ?)
and if a new battlefield are on the release i might not pre-order it but wait a few months to fix the "child problems"
Remember when BF4 was the most hated game of the franchise....
That just goes to show how bad things have gotten. BF4 was lightyears ahead of BFV in terms of content and polish at this point of the post-launch cycle. If DICE had given BF4 the same low-effort skeleton-crew Support that BFV is receiving, the Franchise Probably would have died there and then.
I'm not so sure the next Battlefield will be a "smash hit". I think EA gets a lot of bad press with regard to these games, but I really feel its the incompetence of the development studios. People make memes of studios that were "once good" who "now stink" after they partnered with EA. I think this has very little to do with EA. It's correlation, but not causation. I think it has more to do with studios that once had to compete and make good games if they wanted a paycheck, all of the sudden find themselves lacking motivation when they are on salary. If the game is good, they get paid the same. If the game flops, they get paid the same. Why would DICE as a studio put in max effort if they are going to get paid the same regardless? The subsidiary/partnership is what creates this incompetence. You have to give developers a reason to put in max effort. Reward the studios for sales, and player retention. Not metacritic scores....... If the developers at DICE knew they could make more money by keeping a higher player retention, they would be working overtime trying to cash in on that opportunity. Trust me....
Battlefield 5 should be the best ww2 game ever made. Not a single major ww2 battle has been replicated in bf5 its crazy. That alone makes this a failure as a WW2 game. I think most people were expecting to see maps based on major WW2 battles
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I KNEW dice actually posted in these forums? Hey while you’re here, can we have more tiny infantry maps and Battle Royals and lootboxes and Fortnite skins?? /s
So...we should moan about the moaners whilst adding extra cynical comments?
Edit: Just found out that they made tankers at least optional as male and apparently has customisation too, so a glimmer of understanding for the future. And I really want BF back.
Yes. BF4 has a buggy start but it recovered with future patches and excellent DLCs.
Hardline was a big departure from the BF theme but the game mechanics worked far better than this game. It was different but it owned it and did it well.
BF1 was a big change in terms of time to kill but it worked and it had a way better map design and atmosphere...
Plus...it felt like with every patch, BF1, Hardline and 4 all got better (maps, weapon balancing, etc).
BFV on the other hand continues to be a huge mess with decisions that don’t just affect the game but erode the trust of casual and hardcore fans - taking away base game modes, patch delays and patches that make break the game, pre-order bonuses that aren’t actually worth it, attacking fans prior to the launch, messing up the road map announcements, and on and on...
I’m not so sure those people will come back. I’m definitely not pre-ordering the next BF title after everything that has unfolded with BFV...
Gamespot would make more money if they marked new copies as used.
If anyone cares, I played from 1942-BF3, then got back in with BF1 late in its life. Turns out it was only briefly, BFV is about the worst online game experience I've had purely thanks to the devs.
DICE could have easily put together the game as it sits today in the time since its release. That's a bewilderingly poor state for the game to be in nearly a year post-release, given its "live service" advertising. We never see any work or the result of any appreciable work, so I can only assume none is going on to show.
I am reminded strongly of Elite Dangerous. For years, Frontier lied to us and claimed the big or good updates were right around the corner. Every single one was a complete failure, then they just up & cancelled several major ones along with the future of the game they advertised in order to sell copies in the first place.
False advertising is a serious crime.
I pre-ordered BF5, did play the beta and i still play Battlefield 5 even with the bugs because i enjoy the game.
the game has alot of bugs sure, but it can still be an enjoyable game time to time if you end up in the right servers (cause netcode seems fine on some ?)
and if a new battlefield are on the release i might not pre-order it but wait a few months to fix the "child problems"
That just goes to show how bad things have gotten. BF4 was lightyears ahead of BFV in terms of content and polish at this point of the post-launch cycle. If DICE had given BF4 the same low-effort skeleton-crew Support that BFV is receiving, the Franchise Probably would have died there and then.