Ping Increase, explanation DICE?

BrownBreadz · September 14, 2019 12:02PM

Can anyone explain why the ingame ping has doubled over the past two weeks? It's not clientside as everyone I know has had a 20+ ping jump, really not enticing me to spend much time on BFV tbh.

MrCamp121 · September 14, 2019 12:08PM

Patch 4.4

KrullBorg · September 14, 2019 12:11PM

new feature... to make the desire to play lose even more

TFBisquit · September 14, 2019 3:53PM

In all fairness, adding 1hk weapons as tow rewards stopped the TTK/TTD discussions. So maybe they thought it would end the netcode debates by giving everybody a higher latency.

But on the bright side, fix will be implemented by the end of this month. Fair is fair.

NLBartmaN · September 14, 2019 4:31PM

TFBisquit said:

But on the bright side, fix will be implemented by the end of this month. Fair is fair.

And the issue will be back the patch after that ...

VincentNZ · September 14, 2019 4:34PM

I do not see how a ping increase of 20 (not universally, mind you, it varies, some people/servers do not have problems) has an impact on individual gameplay. I mean there are many people across the world that can only play at a ping of +40.

If there is an influx of issues with the netcode, I very much doubt the increased ping is the reason. Just a symptom of the issue.

BrownBreadz · September 14, 2019 5:03PM

VincentNZ said:

I do not see how a ping increase of 20 (not universally, mind you, it varies, some people/servers do not have problems) has an impact on individual gameplay. I mean there are many people across the world that can only play at a ping of +40.
If there is an influx of issues with the netcode, I very much doubt the increased ping is the reason. Just a symptom of the issue.

It's double, having played competitive games elsewhere (tourny level) I can tell you it makes a huge impact, it makes reacting to x or y within 1/2 a second much more difficult and I could instantly notice the increase it has essentially annihilated my ability to twitch effectively (not the streaming site)

dcs500 · September 14, 2019 5:04PM

Just another step to make the game as unplayable as possible, they’re doing a great job, good game, well done.
🙄

BrownBreadz · September 14, 2019 5:06PM

Vince check out this site then double your latency and you will see what I mean.

Matty101yttam · September 14, 2019 8:07PM

VincentNZ said:

I do not see how a ping increase of 20 (not universally, mind you, it varies, some people/servers do not have problems) has an impact on individual gameplay. I mean there are many people across the world that can only play at a ping of +40.
If there is an influx of issues with the netcode, I very much doubt the increased ping is the reason. Just a symptom of the issue.

I play at a ping of about 60 normally, now is 90, before the patch i was getting around 3kd average, at 90 its about 2kd, also when ping was 60 and i played smaller modes like squad conquest my kd would go much higher and gameplay felt much smoother.
So i would say every 30 ping = 1kd roughly, which is about right when i scale it up when playing distant servers as well, after about 130 i need to start using specific weapons and play differently to deal with lag better which works up until about 190 but that 30 ms rule still sits about right.

NLBartmaN · September 14, 2019 10:26PM

VincentNZ said:

I do not see how a ping increase of 20 (not universally, mind you, it varies, some people/servers do not have problems) has an impact on individual gameplay. I mean there are many people across the world that can only play at a ping of +40.
If there is an influx of issues with the netcode, I very much doubt the increased ping is the reason. Just a symptom of the issue.

The problem is: it is not just adding some ms, the ping is also very unstable and lots of packet loss from time to time.

There is no netcode in this world that can compensate for that, so it plays like crap more than half of the time.

There is something serious wrong ...

CSO7777 · September 14, 2019 11:23PM

I haven't got any change to my ping (still 21 ms), but something is weird with the "netcode" and the hit-registration is sometimes totally off / not working at all (unload bullets in enemies without any damage).

In general I get less one-frame-deaths after patch 4.4, but it seems like damage from my own gun is more erratic. Often on my screen it doesn't give any damage numbers, and then suddenly the enemy die very fast, like the "TTD bug" but reversed...

And I get the 'latency variation' icon sometimes, which I didn't get before the patch.

Carbonic · September 15, 2019 12:18AM

Update to fix the issue releasing later this month:

BtheReaper49 · September 15, 2019 7:13PM

Carbonic wrote: »

Update to fix the issue releasing later this month:
https://trello.com/c/NJmo7ctJ/50-increased-pings-for-all-players

Later this month as in Sept 30th? So much for the "live" service they touted....

xXHappy_PuppyXx · September 17, 2019 1:52AM

Wish mine only jumped 20 I went from 100ms avg to now avg 180 making not worth playing.

MrCamp121 · September 17, 2019 5:19AM

Just did some rounds..ping between 64-100. The final round before i rage quit because of ping....187. Lmao this game is..idk how to describe it

BrownBreadz · September 20, 2019 3:32PM

xXHappy_PuppyXx said:

Wish mine only jumped 20 I went from 100ms avg to now avg 180 making not worth playing.

If my regular ping was 100ms in an FPS, I'd uninstall.

xXHappy_PuppyXx · September 20, 2019 4:59PM

BrownBreadz wrote: »

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If my regular ping was 100ms in an FPS, I'd uninstall.

And yet I don't need a sub 50 ping to out play most people....

There is hardly a difference between 50ms to a 100ms. In BFV though you get around 160ms+ odd things start happening. People ghosting into the air and warping.

I'm starting to feel the ping being shown isn't even accurate.

BrownBreadz · September 20, 2019 5:46PM

xXHappy_PuppyXx said:

BrownBreadz wrote: »

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If my regular ping was 100ms in an FPS, I'd uninstall.

And yet I don't need a sub 50 ping to out play most people....

There is hardly a difference between 50ms to a 100ms. In BFV though you get around 160ms+ odd things start happening. People ghosting into the air and warping.

I'm starting to feel the ping bring shown isn't even accurate.

lol - 50ms makes no difference but 60 does??? I've not played with 100+ ping so I cant comment (same may be applicable if you have never played under 50) I'm not even going to get baited into the other part of the comment.

xXHappy_PuppyXx · September 20, 2019 6:44PM

BrownBreadz wrote: »

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lol - 50ms makes no difference but 60 does??? I've not played with 100+ ping so I cant comment (same may be applicable if you have never played under 50) I'm not even going to get baited into the other part of the comment.

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it...

Maybe you should reread it more slowly...

Fyi I have played at a sub 10 before... no it wasn't better becuase everyone else lags. You want to be in the median of the collective ping times. Most people are in the 50 to 100ms. When you break 160ms you start see abnormal game play issues..

But it's to funny as you have lesser stats then me on battlefield tracker.... what's your excuse?

Matty101yttam · September 20, 2019 9:35PM

I guess it depends on your playstyle but every 30 ping is 1kd ratio for me roughly, i sit at about 3-4 kd average and it goes up by 1 every 30 ping i lose, or down by 1 for every 30 i gain.
So maybe it depends if your playing a high heat style like i do or a more laid back style like sniping.

xXHappy_PuppyXx said:

BrownBreadz wrote: »

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lol - 50ms makes no difference but 60 does??? I've not played with 100+ ping so I cant comment (same may be applicable if you have never played under 50) I'm not even going to get baited into the other part of the comment.

But it's to funny as you have lesser stats then me on battlefield tracker.... what's your excuse?

Also don't bring stats into it, they are a joke and are pointless for anything apart from stroking a try hards ego, good players experiment, good players don't stress, you can't do either if your worried about dying.

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