is zeroing on bolt action still considered noobish?

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hkspm123
402 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
for people who dont know , bf3 does not have zeroing on their bolt action , which brought up some "discussion" on bf4 . zeroing was considered noobish at the time.

so what in your thought ?

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  • CSO7777
    1491 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    You often shoot at targets at different distances (in a short time) and having to do this takes time. Better just learn to shoot without it, more consistant in the end.
  • StealthAria
    431 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    The zeroing is just annoying, none of them are tangential to the trajectory. The 60m ends up overshooting so you actually have to aim low for between 60 and ~150m, and 150 isn't a lot better as it causes the round to go high by as much as a head on either side of the zero. 300 is just ridiculous, it's like the 1000 from BF4 except the drag means most bullets don't actually even make it that far.
  • Toxic_CA
    919 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    How would anyone know you're zeroing?

    Why would anyone care?
  • Noodlesocks
    3276 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Never found it any more useful than simply aiming a little above target. Would like to see zeroing specialisations removed and replaced with some more useful specialisations.
  • Godmodegta
    507 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    yeah it bit useless, i only snipe from 80 meters or 150 meters , and even with decrease velocity, when enemy can dodge your shot. Also anyone know the maximum zeroing in? i think it was 300 meters?
  • Elephante33
    316 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    its pretty useless because in previose titles, the crosshairs actually ticked up or down so you could tell stuff was changing. And besides, the maps are so small, and everyone runs so fast, its kinda pointless and never really gets used
  • Snookray83
    23 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    zeroing or bayonet, both are totally useless.
  • jroggs
    962 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    If you use a scope, zeroing is probably a waste of your time. For those of us that play iron sights, though, it's really important because you're going to lose sight of your target completely with the vertical hold you need to use to hit distant targets. (If someone can explain to me how assessing distance and dialing in a more appropriate range setting for your sight picture hold is "noobish," I'm all ears. Because that notion is bonkers to me.)

    Having to choose between zeroing and bayonet is miserable. They're both extremely vital to how I would play Recon, especially with the unrealistically bad muzzle velocity and thus drop in this game. I usually end up forgoing the zeroing and resigning myself to only being able to reliably aim at targets under 150 meters.
  • Godmodegta
    507 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    So what you all think we should replace Zeroing perk with?
  • xKusagamix
    1045 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    Godmodegta wrote: »
    So what you all think we should replace Zeroing perk with?
    Faster overall speed (rechamber/switch/...) would be nice.
  • Rab4tZ
    58 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Godmodegta wrote: »
    So what you all think we should replace Zeroing perk with?

    Faster weapon switch to the secondery
  • Hawxxeye
    6585 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited November 2019
    zeroing or bayonet, both are totally useless.
    Zeroing maybe...
    But calling the Bayonet useless? That is rich. You can turn the tables by baiting an overconfident enemy around a corner


  • olavafar
    2072 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Hawxxeye said:
    zeroing or bayonet, both are totally useless.
    Zeroing maybe...
    But calling the Bayonet useless? That is rich. You can turn the tables by baiting an overconfident enemy around a corner


    I agree, the bayonet is very useful indeed in a lot of situations. I'm very bad at it but I used it quite a lot in this week ToW as there was an assignment (and I'm an assignment junkie). On the pacific I fire flares to see enemies and sometimes you see one close at the other side of vegetation. Perhaps a bit risky to engage with a bolt action. Charging through the vegetation with the bayo works pretty well in that situation. It also feels kind of fun in an odd way when you charge out of the bushes like a madman.

    On the subject: Zeroing I assume takes alot of skill at least I do not have. One need to know the distance to the target and unless you have a spotting scope or enemy stands by a flag pole, how does one even know? 'Gut feeling' works so much better. Then when an enemy pops up close you need to cycle through to close again to be able to hit correctly... I just cannot understand how anyone would be able to do that. It made sense in BF4 with 40x scopes where you could position yourself so that all shots were  > 600m but not so much in this edition.
  • Hawxxeye
    6585 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    olavafar said:
    Hawxxeye said:
    zeroing or bayonet, both are totally useless.
    Zeroing maybe...
    But calling the Bayonet useless? That is rich. You can turn the tables by baiting an overconfident enemy around a corner


    I agree, the bayonet is very useful indeed in a lot of situations. I'm very bad at it but I used it quite a lot in this week ToW as there was an assignment (and I'm an assignment junkie). On the pacific I fire flares to see enemies and sometimes you see one close at the other side of vegetation. Perhaps a bit risky to engage with a bolt action. Charging through the vegetation with the bayo works pretty well in that situation. It also feels kind of fun in an odd way when you charge out of the bushes like a madman.

    On the subject: Zeroing I assume takes alot of skill at least I do not have. One need to know the distance to the target and unless you have a spotting scope or enemy stands by a flag pole, how does one even know? 'Gut feeling' works so much better. Then when an enemy pops up close you need to cycle through to close again to be able to hit correctly... I just cannot understand how anyone would be able to do that. It made sense in BF4 with 40x scopes where you could position yourself so that all shots were  > 600m but not so much in this edition.
    In all honesty the only time one would need to use zeroing in BFV is if they need to make a super long shot with a low velocity rifle. This 357m headshot with the boys AT rifle for example needed the 300m zeroing.
  • Snookray83
    23 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Ok so the bayonet has a small use, i'd still rather this last perk on some of the bolt actions be something you benefit from all the time. I haven't been bayonet charged yet in bfv or even used it myself, after bf1 i'd like to keep it that way lol.
  • ChickenTheTank
    742 postsMember, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    If you get yourself into a position where you've got a good eye on enemies in Tyne objective, and they haven't dipped you yet, zero up and start blasting away (at the guys in the back of the pack).

    If you're on the move, don't spend time zeroing, just compensate for drop.
  • Hawxxeye
    6585 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Ok so the bayonet has a small use, i'd still rather this last perk on some of the bolt actions be something you benefit from all the time. I haven't been bayonet charged yet in bfv or even used it myself, after bf1 i'd like to keep it that way lol.
    This is why the best bolt action is the jungle carbine with its tighter hipfire perk
  • talhaONE
    348 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Zeroing is useless because it does not zero to exact distance of the target.
  • hkspm123
    402 postsMember, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    talhaONE said:
    Zeroing is useless because it does not zero to exact distance of the target.
    hmm , in my experience 300m zeroing does work perfectly . but as said above its faster to simply compensate by player skill . 

    only advantage of zeroing is easy to make accurate shot on extreme distance 
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