Nordlys is absolutely garbage.

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bagladdavies
6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
I have never seen a worse, more corny, phoney or downright terrible representation of any war story than the one presented to us in the chapter Nordlys in BF:V.

I mean all sincerity when I say that the absolutely terrible script, direction and plot points of this story are an insult to every player of this game and every veteran and casualty of the second world war.
  1. Falling from a cliff into sub zero waters in full winter gear, and then proceeding to hike in that soaking gear through a blizzard is a guaranteed way of sucumbing to hypothermia and dying within MINUTES
  2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ officers didn't just hold people at gunpoint indefinitely, making speeches at them and preventing them from being shot, least of all the same two people who have used those phoney, cheesey moments twice up to that point to make an escape. This is an insult to anybody who has capitulated at gun point to men who would definitely kill them. The only reason you would write this into a single script no more than 10 minutes long 3 times is if you have absolutely no skills in story telling and no imagination to come up with compelling plot points that would build a NATURAL tension and not this forced ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
  3. How many times did solveig find her mother, then oh no she's at gunpoint, and then predictably a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ walks up behind her? Literally the exact same thing happened 3 times in the same order. There is absolutely NO TENSION in these scenes as the dialogue is so corny and fake the whole thing is a clown fiesta.
  4. A single teen girl could not possibly storm garrison after garrison of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ soldiers on her own and could definitely not have literally walked into a fortified ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ bunker unimpeded. The entire premise of this mission spits in the face of the thousands of Norwegian resistance fighters who died in the sights of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ soldiers to accomplish comparatively ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ALL. A story that honoured their memory would show a resistance formed by teamwork and would inspire emotion not through some disgracefully cliche near death flashback stroll like we've seen in countless BAD video game war narratives, but would draw on the real misery that was experienced as people fought and died bitterly for every inch and minor victory, losing those close to them as their lives were ruined by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ invasion and occupation and would not need this soap opera level of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ tier trope reliance to try to cover up for the fact that we haven't had enough personality brought out of the protagonists or antagonists for us to give a flying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about what happens to them or how they inevitably use their inhuman ability to withstand any form of physical damage to waltz their way to victory with little to no hardship.
Honestly, whoever directed the plot for this game needs firing and never rehiring for this role ever again and I mean that genuinly. Even if it wasn't an insult to the memory of fallen heroes the plot is so sickeningly bad I'm not even going to bother playing the other chapters and came here specifically to say that you should be absolutely ashamed of this drivel. Try harder because this is pathetic.

Comments

  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Also, the fact you cant say GNATSI in a game about WW2 or even in the forums is an absolute JOKE.
  • BeastofBourbon84
    736 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    Still a better story than tlou2 ;)

    I didn't even bother with bfv's singleplayer.
    Only played last tiger for the skin but even that was pretty corny (although it's considered the best campaign in bfv).
  • Carbonic
    1946 postsMember, Moderator, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Moderator
    edited October 16
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.
  • Trokey66
    9140 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    DaMutha1 wrote: »
    I agree!  Oh wait, it's a video game.  So I don't.

    Excellent point, very well presented.
  • X_Sunslayer_X
    1482 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    the bar for BF SP content is rather low, but if you just now went and played the war-stories its mostly your fault BFV never claimed anything but a reimagining of WW2 if you do not believe me just look at the well-known reveal trailer.

  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    DaMutha1 said:
    I agree!  Oh wait, it's a video game.  So I don't.

    It's a game so you don't care if the single player plot is absolute hot garbage?
  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    "Fantastical", read "corny, cliched and awful"
  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    They have the right to poop in their hands and clap too. This low effort god awful storytelling is really shameful and they should try harder to make the experience not quite so sickening and farcical.
  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    the bar for BF SP content is rather low, but if you just now went and played the war-stories its mostly your fault BFV never claimed anything but a reimagining of WW2 if you do not believe me just look at the well-known reveal trailer.


    How is it my fault that they made such a poor story? What kind of a defence is this? Either make a single player campaign and put some effort into making the storyline compelling and full of natural tension or do the memory of everyone involved and don't even bother.
  • X_Sunslayer_X
    1482 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    the bar for BF SP content is rather low, but if you just now went and played the war-stories its mostly your fault BFV never claimed anything but a reimagining of WW2 if you do not believe me just look at the well-known reveal trailer.


    How is it my fault that they made such a poor story? What kind of a defence is this? Either make a single player campaign and put some effort into making the storyline compelling and full of natural tension or do the memory of everyone involved and don't even bother.


    again you expect too much from DICE, and also its a video-game and an arcade game at that. it has no claim to be realistic and or authentic
  • bagladdavies
    6 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    the bar for BF SP content is rather low, but if you just now went and played the war-stories its mostly your fault BFV never claimed anything but a reimagining of WW2 if you do not believe me just look at the well-known reveal trailer.


    How is it my fault that they made such a poor story? What kind of a defence is this? Either make a single player campaign and put some effort into making the storyline compelling and full of natural tension or do the memory of everyone involved and don't even bother.


    again you expect too much from DICE, and also its a video-game and an arcade game at that. it has no claim to be realistic and or authentic

    I'm really not expecting that much at all. It doesn't need to be realistic just not a terrible played out cliche
  • DaMutha1
    1469 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, Battlefield V Member
    DaMutha1 said:
    I agree!  Oh wait, it's a video game.  So I don't.

    It's a game so you don't care if the single player plot is absolute hot garbage?
    Correct.   I only played the single player to get the cricket bat, Last Tiger skin, and my platinum.   Couldn't care less about the storyline.
  • Noodlesocks
    3648 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    Yes but don't you feel female empowered now?
  • Carbonic
    1946 postsMember, Moderator, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Moderator
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    They have the right to poop in their hands and clap too. This low effort god awful storytelling is really shameful and they should try harder to make the experience not quite so sickening and farcical.
    My comment was pretty much just about your stated need for the mission to be realistic and true to real life. Not about the general storytelling.
    Do you need the missions to be true to be very realistic and historically correct for them to be considered good storytelling or is there room for unrealistic stories inspired by real events without being true to them?
  • llPhantom_Limbll
    6306 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited October 16
    Carbonic said:
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    They have the right to poop in their hands and clap too. This low effort god awful storytelling is really shameful and they should try harder to make the experience not quite so sickening and farcical.
    My comment was pretty much just about your stated need for the mission to be realistic and true to real life. Not about the general storytelling.
    Do you need the missions to be true to be very realistic and historically correct for them to be considered good storytelling or is there room for unrealistic stories inspired by real events without being true to them?
    Here is the thing: while all SP stories are obviously unreal even if some based on real events, Dice tried so hard to make them serious and meaningful. Which is a bad move considering the game has almost nothing to do with IRL events and stuff. Well at least the story of british guy was fun and had BF feeling to it because of being silly and over the top.
    War stories in BF1 also had fun stuff and crazy stuff in them. But here Dice decided to make some points and failed to achieve the goal.
    Well it's not like the whole game was a success, overall mediocre SP is a part of a mediocre game and it perfectly fits.
  • fragnstein
    835 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, Battlefield V Member
    (Quote)
    Here is the thing: while all SP stories are obviously unreal even if some based on real events, Dice tried so hard to make them serious and meaningful. Which is a bad move considering the game has almost nothing to do with IRL events and stuff. Well at least the story of british guy was fun and had BF feeling to it because of being silly and over the top.
    War stories in BF1 also had fun stuff and crazy stuff in them. But here Dice decided to make some points and failed to achieve the goal.
    Well it's not like the whole game was a success, overall mediocre SP is a part of a mediocre game and it perfectly fits.

    Nordleys was like the only mission based on irl events of Telemark heavy water sabatoge. Would have been much better had the level played out more the real events
  • Hawxxeye
    7774 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited October 17
    Instead of Nordly's we should have had the real story of that german pilot who eventually risked his life to escort a horribly damaged allies bomber out of  axis territory.
    He needed one more confirmed kill to get some medal or commendation, but he chose to both risk being shot by the anti fighter guns of the bomber and execution if anyone found out.

    The bomber crew that survived got to have descendants and when they were old the two pilots managed to find each other and stayed close friends for the rest of their lives.
  • Carbonic
    1946 postsMember, Moderator, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Moderator
    edited October 17
    Carbonic said:
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    They have the right to poop in their hands and clap too. This low effort god awful storytelling is really shameful and they should try harder to make the experience not quite so sickening and farcical.
    My comment was pretty much just about your stated need for the mission to be realistic and true to real life. Not about the general storytelling.
    Do you need the missions to be true to be very realistic and historically correct for them to be considered good storytelling or is there room for unrealistic stories inspired by real events without being true to them?
    Here is the thing: while all SP stories are obviously unreal even if some based on real events, Dice tried so hard to make them serious and meaningful. Which is a bad move considering the game has almost nothing to do with IRL events and stuff. Well at least the story of british guy was fun and had BF feeling to it because of being silly and over the top.
    War stories in BF1 also had fun stuff and crazy stuff in them. But here Dice decided to make some points and failed to achieve the goal.
    Well it's not like the whole game was a success, overall mediocre SP is a part of a mediocre game and it perfectly fits.
    I read your response as you don't think these gritty, serious and meaningful campaigns without humor fit with this Battlefield as a game.
    Quite interesting as that means you don't like it for quite different reasons than the Original poster (OP).
    That means you are on opposite sides of this very simplified spectrum:

    OP - - - -realistic, meaningful, IRL  - - - - Battlefield V - - - - humorous, arcadeish, fake world  - - - - @llPhantom_Limbll

    I wonder if this means Battlefield campaigns taking place in famous historical contexts are always doomed to fail when it comes to social media and forums as you will always either:
    A: Annoy ½ the playerbase, the Bad Company crowd that think it's too realistic, true to real life an meaningful = not fun enough
    B: Annoy ½ the playerbase, The Hardcore crowd who think it's too gimmicky, arcady, and fake = not authentic enough
    C: Have the entire playerbase think it's mediocre by trying to strike a balance between the two

  • llPhantom_Limbll
    6306 postsMember, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, Battlefield Hardline, Battlefield, Battlefield 1, CTE, BF1IncursionsAlpha, Battlefield V Member
    edited October 17
    Carbonic said:
    Carbonic said:
    Carbonic said:
    It's a fantastical story inspired by real events - but it's not meant to realistically portray those events. It's a video game. It's a game in the Battlefield series. This should not be a surprise to anyone.

    I personally would like to think that resistance fighters in part fought so their children and their children's children could grow up in free countries where they can freely express themselves creatively, making stories like this one.

    They have the right to poop in their hands and clap too. This low effort god awful storytelling is really shameful and they should try harder to make the experience not quite so sickening and farcical.
    My comment was pretty much just about your stated need for the mission to be realistic and true to real life. Not about the general storytelling.
    Do you need the missions to be true to be very realistic and historically correct for them to be considered good storytelling or is there room for unrealistic stories inspired by real events without being true to them?
    Here is the thing: while all SP stories are obviously unreal even if some based on real events, Dice tried so hard to make them serious and meaningful. Which is a bad move considering the game has almost nothing to do with IRL events and stuff. Well at least the story of british guy was fun and had BF feeling to it because of being silly and over the top.
    War stories in BF1 also had fun stuff and crazy stuff in them. But here Dice decided to make some points and failed to achieve the goal.
    Well it's not like the whole game was a success, overall mediocre SP is a part of a mediocre game and it perfectly fits.
    I read your response as you don't think these gritty, serious and meaningful campaigns without humor fit with this Battlefield as a game.
    Quite interesting as that means you don't like it for quite different reasons than the Original poster (OP).
    That means you are on opposite sides of this very simplified spectrum:

    OP - - - -realistic, meaningful, IRL  - - - - Battlefield V - - - - humorous, arcadeish, fake world  - - - - @llPhantom_Limbll

    I wonder if this means Battlefield campaigns taking place in famous historical contexts are always doomed to fail when it comes to social media and forums as you will always either:
    A: Annoy ½ the playerbase, the Bad Company crowd that think it's too realistic, true to real life an meaningful = not fun enough
    B: Annoy ½ the playerbase, The Hardcore crowd who think it's too gimmicky, arcady, and fake = not authentic enough
    C: Have the entire playerbase think it's mediocre by trying to strike a balance between the two

    Sure thing. For me games are for fun purposes. If I want to know more about real side of WW2 events, I'd rather watch some documentary. Games should never go full serious mode as it ruins fun and enjoyment. That's why  games like Wolfenstein series are good but BFV SP is mediocre at best.
    And honestly, BFV overall is mediocre because Dice tried too hard to please everyone and in the end pleased nobody.
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