What are your impressions of the revamped Dogfighter?
First off, I'm really happy that Dice made an effort to improve the Dogfighter variant of the fighter. However it seems to be just as irrelevant as before, here are a few thoughts:
1. AP ammo feels a bit underwhelming, like it should break parts easier than it actually does. I admit I'm not a great Dogfighter, so this could just be a lack of skill on my part.
2. The speed boost wasn't necessary, emergency repair was the only thing it really had going for it pre-patch. Speed boost can be negated by just using the "scope" for long range shots until you close the gap.
3. Bomber killer now has emer repair, making it more useful in that role as well as dogfighting, not to mention the main gun does more damage than the other fighter variants.
What do you guys think? Are any of you experienced fighter pilots going to choose the DF over the BK in an air to air battle? If so why? I play mostly bomber so I'm not as savvy with fighters as much as some.
1. AP ammo feels a bit underwhelming, like it should break parts easier than it actually does. I admit I'm not a great Dogfighter, so this could just be a lack of skill on my part.
2. The speed boost wasn't necessary, emergency repair was the only thing it really had going for it pre-patch. Speed boost can be negated by just using the "scope" for long range shots until you close the gap.
3. Bomber killer now has emer repair, making it more useful in that role as well as dogfighting, not to mention the main gun does more damage than the other fighter variants.
What do you guys think? Are any of you experienced fighter pilots going to choose the DF over the BK in an air to air battle? If so why? I play mostly bomber so I'm not as savvy with fighters as much as some.
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Even leaping into the rear gun as a pilot, you can do a lot of damage, the fighter will break off and you can actually turn well enough to chase *him*.
I'm no pro pilot - they can probably make good use of the fighters - I imagine the bomber killer is best now, but I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't fly attack planes now.
Even if you do with as the dogfighter, you're then twiddling your thumbs.
Agreed. I don't see anything special about them.
15 rounds of inced ammo is not enough, It needs to be like 45.
That or spraying them breaks wings faster. You can currently hit a plane with 7/15 rounds and not get a tail disable, That's the whole point of the DF.
Atk planes are the kings of the sky now.
Trench package is still easy and efficient as well.
Funny enough in the time you use normal rounds then incend and normal rounds again, BK would of one shot the enemy plane with rockets.
Funny enough in the time you use normal rounds then incend and normal rounds again, BK would of one shot the enemy plane with rockets.[/quote]
Not against a good pilot with keen situational awareness. Can't remember the last time I was shot down with rockets.
Funny enough in the time you use normal rounds then incend and normal rounds again, BK would of one shot the enemy plane with rockets.[/quote]
Not against a good pilot with keen situational awareness. Can't remember the last time I was shot down with rockets. [/quote]
I was talking about good pilots, You are not going to circle a good pilot down with a DF. Self repair and the rockets are useful in more situations so anyone who is a top tier pilot is going to run BK for pure air sup. DF will struggle vs bombers, BK will not. BK has a more useful tool, And a much more damaging secondary.
Its not even a contest. If the INC rounds were like 30 or 45 rounds it might be more objectionable but as it stands now 15 rounds is barely anything and the rockets will 1 shot other planes.
BK is better vs attack planes as well as their turning speed is just slow enough to get behind them and wreck them because of there larger target size.
AP tho is a very rewarding plane to fly post patch.
I like this guy , same here but man I miss the old trench fighter.
Let me close this thread real quick , dogfighter is irrelevant because a good pilot can down anything with any fighter because of the maneuverability and turning radius. It's all about points that other stuff can bring you and how you can help your team , flares are a great help. All these bomber killer nerds are fotm and not as useful , dogfighters are noobs .. Trench fighter is still supreme and I beg the dice gods to return it to it's its former glory so I can feel more of an impact against 32 man teams if I'm good enough.
For fighter planes, it is still TF > BK > DF when it comes to effectiveness (though I still enjoy BK more but it is a bit of an ego trip, not doing much for the team.) For DF to be viable, it would need to be SUBSTANTIALLY better in the air than any other aircraft as it has close to zero use on ground troops. It would need to have both better turn radius speed as well as criminally OP main guns against planes (better than tail gun of attack and bomber planes) but it has none of that.