Madsen MG Trench v Plane

BaconRebellion · July 28, 2017 2:52AM

I know that the one assignment to unlock the MG14/17 in the new DLC is destroying 2 planes with the Madsen MG Trench, and while it is ridiculous, and we all have our complaints about it, I simply have to ask if its even possible to take out a plane with the Trench variant. I played a quick round of Conquest on Fao to see how it fairs against a plane, and honestly, even though I suck at landing damage on planes with a LMG, I don't think I could do more than 10 damage on the planes in one pass/one magazine. The only way I can see taking out a plane with the Trench variant, is if theyre already severely damaged, and in that case, they are probably far away repairing themselves, and far out of the range of the Madsen Trench.

This is how I faired with it against a plane. Not well. Its like shooting BBs at kevlar.

slywether · July 28, 2017 5:01AM

Shoot wings, b and d point Monte grappa, prob get it in one game.

SliceNaToooR · July 28, 2017 5:18AM

slywether wrote: »

Shoot wings, b and d point Monte grappa, prob get it in one game.

Good tip.

Also doing this challenge with a friend or two would help!

HardAimedKid · July 28, 2017 5:36AM

It's a troll job by dice either way. I've always thought assignments were bs, but to make an assignment like that is ridiculous.

Ferdinand_J_Foch · July 28, 2017 5:44AM

The Madsen MG Trench is not the best LMG for killing aircraft. Even the Low Weight version would be superior, due to its bipod. This weapon is meant to be used as a hipfiring CQB weapon, not an AA gun. Even if you empty the entire mag into an aircraft, the pilot will just laugh at your stupidity, and then brutally annihilate you after turning around. You'll have to either resort to kill-stealing, or using an actual AA weapon to weaken the aircraft to the point that the Madsen Trench can actually destroy them.

I know that DICE is trying to show that you can damage aircraft quite a bit with infantry weapons, but it is illogical to use CQB 20/30 round LMGs against any aircraft. Even if you had a decent LMG for this task, it only really works if you get a whole squad to fire at the aircraft at the same time. Even whilst having that squad, you need the aircraft to be flying low and slow enough to actually hit; no LMG squad is going to hit a fighter moving at maximum speed up in the skies.

HardAimedKid · July 28, 2017 6:00AM

Ferdinand_J_Foch wrote: »

The Madsen MG Trench is not the best LMG for killing aircraft. Even the Low Weight version would be superior, due to its bipod. This weapon is meant to be used as a hipfiring CQB weapon, not an AA gun. Even if you empty the entire mag into an aircraft, the pilot will just laugh at your stupidity, and then brutally annihilate you after turning around. You'll have to either resort to kill-stealing, or using an actual AA weapon to weaken the aircraft to the point that the Madsen Trench can actually destroy them.

I know that DICE is trying to show that you can damage aircraft quite a bit with infantry weapons, but it is illogical to use CQB 20/30 round LMGs against any aircraft. Even if you had a decent LMG for this task, it only really works if you get a whole squad to fire at the aircraft at the same time. Even whilst having that squad, you need the aircraft to be flying low and slow enough to actually hit; no LMG squad is going to hit a fighter moving at maximum speed up in the skies.

What dice should show us is that they at least kind of respect us as paying customers and not do bogus crap like this.

ThePunisher_be · July 28, 2017 6:59AM

Our console brothers are f!cked. On PC, it is rather easy to track a plane. I can land most shots of my magazine: then it does around 20-30 damage.

half_empty_soul · July 28, 2017 7:07AM

ThePunisher_be wrote: »

Our console brothers are f!cked. On PC, it is rather easy to track a plane. I can land most shots of my magazine: then it does around 20-30 damage.

dude 20-30 points /= 20-30 damage to the plane

disposalist · July 28, 2017 9:56AM

It *is* CTE... Post on the CTE feedback forum that you think it's a bad idea. Maybe it won't get to release.

Goofy-The-Sc0t · July 28, 2017 10:21AM

Further proof that whoever comes up with these unlock challenges has never played BF1

Captain_DarIing · July 28, 2017 10:22AM

GoofyMC123 wrote: »

Further proof that whoever comes up with these unlock challenges has never played BF1

True that.

DICE is detached from reality.

Fhurstinator · July 28, 2017 11:04AM

slywether wrote: »

Shoot wings, b and d point Monte grappa, prob get it in one game.

I think if you disable a wing and he crashes as a result the game will recognize it as an "accident" and you will not be awarded the kill. You have to shoot the plane until it explodes i believe

disposalist · July 28, 2017 11:15AM

Fhurstinator wrote: »

slywether wrote: »

Shoot wings, b and d point Monte grappa, prob get it in one game.

I think if you disable a wing and he crashes as a result the game will recognize it as an "accident" and you will not be awarded the kill. You have to shoot the plane until it explodes i believe

I believe it depends how long since you did the damage (and it's usually too long, yes) though if you get "Disabled" then it seems to credit the destruction a lot later.

Gmkillers · July 28, 2017 11:32AM

Next challenge "get 2 plane kills with the kolibri"

Captain_DarIing · July 28, 2017 11:34AM

BaconRebellion wrote: »

I know that the one assignment to unlock the MG14/17 in the new DLC is destroying 2 planes with the Madsen MG Trench, and while it is ridiculous, and we all have our complaints about it, I simply have to ask if its even possible to take out a plane with the Trench variant. I played a quick round of Conquest on Fao to see how it fairs against a plane, and honestly, even though I suck at landing damage on planes with a LMG, I don't think I could do more than 10 damage on the planes in one pass/one magazine. The only way I can see taking out a plane with the Trench variant, is if theyre already severely damaged, and in that case, they are probably far away repairing themselves, and far out of the range of the Madsen Trench.

This is how I faired with it against a plane. Not well. Its like shooting BBs at kevlar.

It's bad enough on PC for dealing damage, but I see you are using console aim. Which reminds me how more bad defacto small arms damage actually is in practice.

disposalist · July 28, 2017 11:37AM

So I thought I'd try it...

BaconRebellion · July 28, 2017 11:55AM

disposalist wrote: »

It *is* CTE... Post on the CTE feedback forum that you think it's a bad idea. Maybe it won't get to release.

Ill post there but i don't know where that forum is

EmothicVH · July 28, 2017 12:03PM

The only way I see of being able to do this challenge is camp next to an AA gun. Heavily damage the enemy plane as it flies by, then quickly jump off of the AA and get the kill with the LMG. Only way I see at this being possible other then just having sheer luck.

disposalist · July 28, 2017 12:17PM

EmothicVH wrote: »

The only way I see of being able to do this challenge is camp next to an AA gun. Heavily damage the enemy plane as it flies by, then quickly jump off of the AA and get the kill with the LMG. Only way I see at this being possible other then just having sheer luck.

Did you miss my vid? It took 5 minutes.

disposalist · July 28, 2017 12:20PM

BaconRebellion wrote: »

disposalist wrote: »

It *is* CTE... Post on the CTE feedback forum that you think it's a bad idea. Maybe it won't get to release.

Ill post there but i don't know where that forum is

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/cte-general-feedback

BaconRebellion · July 28, 2017 12:26PM

disposalist wrote: »

BaconRebellion wrote: »

disposalist wrote: »

It *is* CTE... Post on the CTE feedback forum that you think it's a bad idea. Maybe it won't get to release.

Ill post there but i don't know where that forum is

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/categories/cte-general-feedback

Is it only for CTE members? I can't seem to start a thread there

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